Label Fill Option

[Adam_Gibson]

Does anyone have a quick workaround for adding fill to labels? For example, I want filled beam labels so the joists that rest on the beams do not obscure the labels. I suppose I could create a text block, but that gets old pretty quickly. Seems like that should be an option for all label styles, since other items inherently have fill (cabinets, windows, etc.).

Edited 17 hours ago by Adam_Gibson

[DBCooper]

I *think* all object labels are filled or not filled based on the text style used for the label.  Try turning off "transparent" for the text style to see if this gives you what you want.

 

Framing label that has text style with "transparent" unchecked and "border" turned on:

 

Edited 13 hours ago by DBCooper

[Adam_Gibson]

I wish that were true.

 

[robdyck]

Text styles provide the control of the display for all labels and in regards to fill, currently we can only choose between solid fill and transparent. Like many things in Chief, the OOB Text Styles aren't very useful or intuitive. That is to say, that they need complete user customization so that you know what you are using for various objects / layers.

 

It is much more practical to organize your text styles with logical naming conventions that tell you something useful about the text you are using.

Prior to doing this customization, it's a good idea to ensure you know the scale factor for your desired text output. 4" text at 1/4" scale = 0.0833" printed (4"/48)

That equates to 4" text @ 1/4" scale, 8" @ 1/8" scale, 2" @ 1/2" scale, 1" @ 1" scale, etc....

Each person could come up with their own format, but here's a suggestion to help you think about organizing text styles. This method will make it much easier to apply text styles to your layer sets based on the scale of each plan view.

• FORMAT: Font / Actual Size / Special Characteristics
• OUTPUT: Chief Blueprint 3", Bold, Transparent, Uppercase (play around with simple logical abbreviations for those attributes)

 

Edited 16 hours ago by robdyck

[Adam_Gibson]

Hey Roby. I already do something like that. But it doesn't solve the fill issue. 

[Renerabbitt]

2 hours ago, Adam_Gibson said:

I wish that were true.

 

OOTB chief has beam labels reporting to the Framing, Labels layer. So the text style of the Framing Labels layer needs to have transparency unchecked

[Adam_Gibson]

It is unchecked. Were you able to see fill? It clearly says "when fill is available."

 

[Renerabbitt]

1 minute ago, Adam_Gibson said:

It is unchecked. Were you able to see fill? It clearly says "when fill is available."

 

Yes I show fill in the screenshot. Can you screenshot your label panel of your beam and paste it here?
 

[robdyck]

If the framing labels aren't responding to the text style for the Framing, Labels layer, then perhaps your labels have been placed on a different layer. 

Select the object and change to a filled text style for all applicable layers. Also, inspect the object to see what layer is assigned to the label.

[DBCooper]

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I wish that were true.

 

It is true for me.  See the picture I added to my post above.  You should probably post a picture of what you have and what you want.  Or even better, your plan.

 

[Adam_Gibson]

This is what I have.

[Adam_Gibson]

The image with the filled text was done manually. The one with partially hidden text is OOB. Although I would put it next to the beam. Not on top of it. 

 

 :4

Edited 13 hours ago by Adam_Gibson

[robdyck]

Using the beam label, you won't be able to get the beam label on top of the joists if the beam is under the joists.

[robdyck]

A relatively simple and useful alternative is to use a framing schedule for beams only. Then you can use the schedule callout which could be small enough to fit between joists. This schedule can be saved for future use and efficiency.

Edited 13 hours ago by robdyck

[robdyck]

Otherwise, you're more or less limited to using text in one form or another.

[Adam_Gibson]

I understand. Seems like something that should go in Suggestions. 

[DBCooper]

Robert is correct that you can't get the beam label to display on top of the joists since the beam is under the joists.  Labels always display in the same drawing level that the owner object displays.  You could rotate it 90 degrees but TBH I would probably just create manual text for this case.

 

Your picture still looks like your beam label is transparent though. Not sure how you are getting that if you unchecked "transparent" for the label text style.

 

[Adam_Gibson]

It's because it is transparent. There's no other option. 

[PitMan71]

Seems like labels should always come to the top layer. Or at least have that choice in the settings.

[Adam_Gibson]

I could' agree more. 

[robdyck]

15 minutes ago, Adam_Gibson said:

It's because it is transparent. There's no other option. 

Umm, sure there is. Change the text style for that layer. Use a different one, or change the one that's in play.

[Adam_Gibson]

I've tried. If you are able to, please let me know!

[Adam_Gibson]

Cabinet labels, for example, are filled. But if I put it on that layer, or a similar one, it's still transparent. 

[robdyck]

[Adam_Gibson]

As much as I appreciate the time and energy to help me, this is not the solution as it does not block out what's behind the text, which is my goal. But I thank you for trying!