stevenyhof Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 My son has put together a new computer build for me, I would like to know what in this build would really boost CA performance. You can see my existing build in my signature. This monitor can be split into 4 individual monitors. It would be replacing my 4 cheap tv's I use now. I know curved isn't liked much by anyone other than gamers. Has anyone used a curved monitor? Current monitor setup. Reason for the upgrade, I am working on some bigger plans, and CA seems to drag a bit. Thank you, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Chopsaw Posted March 25, 2023 Solution Share Posted March 25, 2023 Are you currently running 2 1/2" Sata SSD drives ? I am pretty sure there are others that would be grateful to have the system you are running now but if you have 4K for an upgrade that looks like a pretty sweet build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chopsaw said: Are you currently running 2 1/2" Sata SSD drives ? I am pretty sure there are others that would be grateful to have the system you are running now but if you have 4K for an upgrade that looks like a pretty sweet build. No 2 1/2" sata ssd. All 980 pro m.2 For anyone, I was just looking at CA's recommended specs. They recommend an i9, it seems to me that the processor pulls more weight for CA than the video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, stevenyhof said: Has anyone used a curved monitor? I used to use a 32" curved spectra brand 2k monitor and I liked the curve. I recently upgraded to twin 28" BenQ 4k monitors which I love the 4k ability but I couldn't find the right monitor in curved in right size that was 4k that could fit on my desk (2 monitors can take up lots of real estate as you know) and wouldn't break the bank since I upgraded computers at the same time. Some good input on monitors in this thread: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richoffan Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Been using (2) 32" Samsung curved monitors with the 17" screen on my Alien laptop for a few years now - Love it! Can easily work the plan on one monitor, split the other into a couple of views - interior / exterior etc. while keeping the library browser on the laptop (or stream the news....) IMHO works just fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 Thank you gentlemen for your comments! Right now with 2 flat monitors I feel like the last foot on the ends of each monitor are facing away or past me, and a curve would be a better use of space having all of it's space facing me. And also with the two monitors above which are typically used for email, scheduling and reference docs, are still cranking my neck to look up all the time. Thank you once again for your feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 17 hours ago, Chopsaw said: Are you currently running 2 1/2" Sata SSD drives ? I am pretty sure there are others that would be grateful to have the system you are running now but if you have 4K for an upgrade that looks like a pretty sweet build. Hi Chopsaw, are you saying that this SSD drive is thee component to help speed up CA operation despite the other components? I guess what I am asking is, I can have other really nice hardware, and should, but if my SSD is not the best it will not matter, or matter less what the other component are? Is this what you have found? - I did update my signature as I have 1TB M.2 980 PRO, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 I am starting out by purchasing the 55" curved monitor and see how things go with that. I was messing around with CA and found that opening a 3D view is where you see a jump in GPU. I also noticed that the new X15 grass plays a big role in slowing things down, so going to remove that (delete it or drag it off the terrain perimeter) as you cannot turn it off and show only the old terrain in X15. I realize that we can turn layers off in the 3D view to really help, but I guess that is my point, is there hardware, or faster and increased sizes that can speed things up with the layers left on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 hours ago, stevenyhof said: Hi Chopsaw, are you saying that this SSD drive is thee component to help speed up CA operation despite the other components? I guess what I am asking is, I can have other really nice hardware, and should, but if my SSD is not the best it will not matter, or matter less what the other component are? Is this what you have found? Yes I am making a transition from sata SSD's to m.2 NVMe 4.0's and hope to see a significant performance gain but if you are upgrading from 3.0 to 4.0 that may not be so noticeable. I see the 990 has a pretty quick read speed but slower write than some competitors but not likely noticeable by a human. So the CPU and SSD are the most important unless you are doing RTRT and it looks like you have that covered as well. I like the low latency of the G.Skill RAM you chose so be sure to post back when you have it up and running with a report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Chopsaw said: Yes I am making a transition from sata SSD's to m.2 NVMe 4.0's and hope to see a significant performance gain but if you are upgrading from 3.0 to 4.0 that may not be so noticeable. I see the 990 has a pretty quick read speed but slower write than some competitors but not likely noticeable by a human. So the CPU and SSD are the most important unless you are doing RTRT and it looks like you have that covered as well. I like the low latency of the G.Skill RAM you chose so be sure to post back when you have it up and running with a report. Very good! Thank you. I will post my findings as I put things together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinWaldron Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 You might want to read this about the monitor. ( I was looking at one for myself and decided against.... my choice.) kw https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/55-odyssey-ark-4k-uhd-165hz-1ms-quantum-mini-led-curved-gaming-screen-ls55bg970nnxgo/?cid=pla-ecomm-pfs-mon-us-google-na-03112022-170121-&ds_e=GOOGLE-cr:0-pl:295207915-&ds_c=FF~Monitors+SSC_CN~Monitors+SSC_ID~B0000PZN_PH~on_MK~us_BS~multi_PR~mon_SB~msmul_FS~hqloe_CA~smp_KS~nag_MT~na-&ds_ag=AG~Monitors+SSC_ID~E0001FZA_MK~us_AT~sa_MD~h_PK~roah_PB~google_AI~n_AE~oth1_TG~3mr_SA~res-&ds_k=PRODUCT_GROUP&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2v-gBhC1ARIsAOQdKY1O-tAXVNlxKtk63DqKmlJNDgdFLanVBkZeA_Sx8LGyOJ8oJ-U0dpcaAjNoEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 45 minutes ago, KevinWaldron said: You might want to read this about the monitor. ( I was looking at one for myself and decided against.... my choice.) kw https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/55-odyssey-ark-4k-uhd-165hz-1ms-quantum-mini-led-curved-gaming-screen-ls55bg970nnxgo/?cid=pla-ecomm-pfs-mon-us-google-na-03112022-170121-&ds_e=GOOGLE-cr:0-pl:295207915-&ds_c=FF~Monitors+SSC_CN~Monitors+SSC_ID~B0000PZN_PH~on_MK~us_BS~multi_PR~mon_SB~msmul_FS~hqloe_CA~smp_KS~nag_MT~na-&ds_ag=AG~Monitors+SSC_ID~E0001FZA_MK~us_AT~sa_MD~h_PK~roah_PB~google_AI~n_AE~oth1_TG~3mr_SA~res-&ds_k=PRODUCT_GROUP&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2v-gBhC1ARIsAOQdKY1O-tAXVNlxKtk63DqKmlJNDgdFLanVBkZeA_Sx8LGyOJ8oJ-U0dpcaAjNoEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds This is the one I purchased. I just got it from newegg for the same price. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 Giving an update here. My monitor showed up today so my son and I set it up... I can tell you that I already miss the real estate I once had with four TV's (just to be clear, they were TV's - 4k, but TV's). My refresh rate went from 60Hz to 165Hz. Not a big deal for CAD, but nice for gaming. Also made my mouse more responsive and smooth. The curve is very nice when putting CA at full screen, this is even larger than one of big TVs - 42" to 55". I like that all of the screen is facing me and I am looking straight forward. With my last set up, more than a foot on each end faced past me. This was ok as that is why I put my menu on the left of the left TV. Back to real estate, I am planning on adding two 27" monitors (vertical) to each side of this new monitor to add back some space as I liked my email, scheduling, etc on one of the upper TVs, and other related drawing docs on the upper left TV. It is just nice not to have to flip through windows, back and fourth. As far as my computer build, I am also looking at more of a workstation with multiple processing cores. Not cheap so really having to think about it, but a nice tax write off. Today I am going to work on making a few Layer Sets to help speed up my production by turning off more layers. I'm hoping to rethink my drawing process and find when I want certain layers on or off. My current computer is fast, but grass is one killer so I think that just will not be used, and I like to place my furniture as it gives me a better sense of how things are flowing. But that is one thing that I will have to toggle. When a lot of layers are on a 6000 sq.ft. house, working with walls, doors and windows it always a small delay in my click to click. I'm trying to find a way to eliminate that delay. Teaching patience for sure, but truly annoying when you want to get things done. I thought I had super good HTMI cables, put this new monitor is telling me to get better cables if I want to run multiple screens inside the one screen, which I am planning on setting up Microsoft Power Toys, FancyZones to accomplish something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 hours ago, stevenyhof said: Back to real estate, I am planning on adding two 27" monitors (vertical) to each side of this new monitor to add back some space You have way more real estate than I do but the flanking vertical monitors are great for websites and reference material. I love mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Chopsaw said: but the flanking vertical monitors are great for websites and reference material. I love mine. I have been messing with the new monitor and FancyZones and that might do it for me. I'm going to mess with it this way for some time and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvoyeDesign Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 2:03 PM, Chopsaw said: Are you currently running 2 1/2" Sata SSD drives ? I am pretty sure there are others that would be grateful to have the system you are running now but if you have 4K for an upgrade that looks like a pretty sweet build. I still have my Z170 board and 7700k from like 6 years ago. I'd upgrade to his current system in a heartbeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvoyeDesign Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 5:34 AM, stevenyhof said: Thank you gentlemen for your comments! Right now with 2 flat monitors I feel like the last foot on the ends of each monitor are facing away or past me, and a curve would be a better use of space having all of it's space facing me. And also with the two monitors above which are typically used for email, scheduling and reference docs, are still cranking my neck to look up all the time. Thank you once again for your feedback. I use a 3 monitor setup, with a 32" in the center and a 24" on either side. Having to look to one side or the other all the time is not ideal and can cause neck, shoulder and back pain. The side monitors are for quick reference, and the pictures show my standard setup with the Layout file open on the left monitor with the library and project browser, the plan views on the center monitor, and the 3D views to the right. If I have to look at one for more than a brief moment I drag it to the center monitor. I plan to upgrade the side monitors to 32" and raise the 24s above them. I use this THIS MOUNT to hold them precisely where I need them and keep my desktop clear of stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, AvoyeDesign said: I use a 3 monitor setup, with a 32" in the center and a 24" on either side. Very nice set up! It is nice to see others expand their desktop like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just an update on the 55" curved monitor. I am not sure why it is different, I have not changed my computer at all, but working in Twinmotion the last few hours, and running a PBR (Path Tracing in TM), it is very fast. In fact I increased my Samples per Pixel to 256 and it is still 4 times faster. It used to take about 2 minutes at 128, and now about 30 seconds. Anyone know why a monitor would make that difference? I did increase the Hz from 60 to 165, but I thought that was more for animated 3D and video??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenyhof Posted April 5, 2023 Author Share Posted April 5, 2023 New update... I'm really enjoying the curve monitor. It works nice because I am using FancyZones and using them a lot like multiple overlapping monitors. I also set up a zone specifically for zoom meetings so that I have access to outer spaces/docs that I can drag into my screen. Note I have zoon set up on the zone and not my whole screen. You can of course click the expand button on the top right of the window your working in to fill the screen. Click again and it goes back into the assigned zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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