builtright3 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I have all my layers turned on but this rim (or ledger) is not showing up. Unless it didnt generate when I did the framing but I dont know how I would fix that. Any idea's? On the floor framing there is a box for a rim but not on the ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdd Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 This happened to me the other day when I was using floor trusses. I ended up adding the rim boards in manually and it worked great. Not sure why they didn't auto generate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Won't put a rim at the ceiling line where wall framing exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 You need to give that "attic" room a name and floor platform to get a rim joist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Is the Framing, Rim Joist Layer turned on? It doesn't show in your Active Layer Display pic that you posted? EDIT: I see that you have 'all layers' turned on please ignore this comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 53 minutes ago, ChiefUserBigRob said: This happened to me the other day when I was using floor trusses. I ended up adding the rim boards in manually and it worked great. Not sure why they didn't auto generate. Just now, joey_martin said: You need to give that "attic" room a name and floor platform to get a rim joist. I have seen the rim before and then there are times when I dont see it, so I must be doing something that Im un aware of. Does not make sense to not have that backing for the drywall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, builtright3 said: I have seen the rim before and then there are times when I dont see it, so I must be doing something that Im un aware of. Does not make sense to not have that backing for the drywall. Not sure what you're expecting but a 'Rim Joist' typically doesn't create "backing for the drywall." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Is it possible you've raised the roof creating the taller attic space Joey's referring to? Instead of a second floor? That's the only way I can get a section to look like the one you've posted. I don't know how to define a 'room' like Joey's suggesting on the attic floor but maybe I'm missing something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Thank you for your time guy's. I settled with the fact that what Im looking for has to be drawn in manualy. I went back and looked at previous drawing and I didnt see it in any of them. You would think it would add a ceiling joist up against the gable wall automatically but the simple truth is that is doesnt. Im not going to call the attic a floor becasue that will casue other issues. I also when back to X10 and it did the same thing. I will stick with "KISS" and not try to make things more complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 There's a "Framing Reference" that Chief has to set up framing in a specific manner but WILL NOT allow a ceiling joist in the location you are looking for. Does seem a bit strange but manually adding a ceiling joist is probably the only way to have Chief frame it the way you want, and in my mind "correctly" as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: There's a "Framing Reference" that Chief has to set up framing in a specific manner but WILL NOT allow a ceiling joist in the location you are looking for. Does seem a bit strange but manually adding a ceiling joist is probably the only way to have Chief frame it the way you want, and in my mind "correctly" as well. I noticed you have a rim joist checked in the floor section of the dbx but it is actually an attic where no rim would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, DRAWZILLA said: I noticed you have a rim joist checked in the floor section of the dbx but it is actually an attic where no rim would be. It looks like he was never looking for a "Rim" but a joist set along the edge of the ceiling for backing. Do you know how to get a joist there auto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, HumbleChief said: It looks like he was never looking for a "Rim" but a joist set along the edge of the ceiling for backing. Do you know how to get a joist there auto? manually, after auto framing is turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 54 minutes ago, DRAWZILLA said: I noticed you have a rim joist checked in the floor section of the dbx but it is actually an attic where no rim would be. I was just showing that picture as an example of what I would exspect on the ceiling framing also. Maybe not call it a rim but maybe drywall backing or ledger or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, builtright3 said: I was just showing that picture as an example of what I would exspect on the ceiling framing also. Maybe not call it a rim but maybe drywall backing or ledger or something like that. Starting the ceiling framing at the edge of the wall to act as backing is pretty standard. Not sure why Chief, not only doesn't, but also won't allow it to be framed that way automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: Starting the ceiling framing at the edge of the wall to act as backing is pretty standard. Not sure why Chief, not only doesn't, but also won't allow it to be framed that way automatically. Yep Seems easy to us but maybe its not so easy programing it. Giving them the benefit of the doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, builtright3 said: Yep Seems easy to us but maybe its not so easy programing it. Giving them the benefit of the doubt This is not that uncommon in Chief as most of the engineers are software engineers and not builders so it doesn't come as naturally to them as is sometimes expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: This is not that uncommon in Chief as most of the engineers are software engineers and not builders so it doesn't come as naturally to them as is sometimes expected. ...and here's the smallest of details to show the software engineers can learn form building practices. For many years the drywall layers showed that the walls were basically put on first and then the ceiling. As an ex drywall contractor this made me nuts, even though it's the smallest of details. I just noticed in your pic and the latest detail that the drywall is now shown correctly with the ceiling placed above the walls instead of the ceiling placed next to the walls. Don't know when this was changed but Bravo to the Chief guys for noticing and changing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now