madcowscarnival 10 Posted November 11, 2020 I really don't know how to frame this question or surely the search function would have worked. I often have to trace imported CAD lines with, say a wall command. I zoom in to accurately start my line, then while dragging the wall, I can zoom in and out with the scroll wheel. However, how do I pan when in this situation? I can zoom out, then move the position of my mouse pointer to start zooming back in to where I want to place the end point of the wall, but this is cumbersome (scroll wheel). If I use the button function of the scroll wheel it just cancels the command rather than pausing and allowing me to pan around the screen. Is there some button or combination that would allow me to pan around the drawing with an active command? I've tried what I thought might be common ones, but am not having any luck guessing or searching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solver 1629 Posted November 11, 2020 Use the Alt key. Start drawing using continuous draw (right click). At any time, release the right mouse button, hold Alt and using the center button, pan, then right click and continue drawing. Works in 3D too. Activate a command -- maybe the painter, Alt pan to the other side of the building and continue painting. Selecting in 3D works the same. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcowscarnival 10 Posted November 11, 2020 Thank you solver. As a runner up question, what is that action called? Or how could it be looked up in the index? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solver 1629 Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, madcowscarnival said: what is that action called? Or how could it be looked up in the index? Don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kbird1 822 Posted November 11, 2020 I believe the Middle Mouse button works for Pan as well ( as the ALT Key ). M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smn842 22 Posted November 11, 2020 This is another reason why 3D mice are so useful as you can just pan and zoom as required with the other hand. Another lesser known benefit is even when in modal dialog boxes the currently active 2D or 3D plan window can still be moved around using a 3D mouse which can be useful if you forget to check something that's not quite in view before opening the dialog. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskan_Son 2521 Posted November 11, 2020 I refer to that as click-release-click vs. click-drag-release. The method I use to force the behavior in Chief is: 1. Click and drag to start operation 2. Shift+Z (Zoom) during drag 3. Press either Center Mouse Wheel (Pan) or optionally the Escape key 4. Pan and zoom as desired (NOTE: If you’re panning anyway, which you likely are if you’re employing the trick, then the step above isn't even necessary) 5. Click again to finish You can customize your hotkeys to make the operation pretty easy but for me, the OOB ones actually work just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glennw 1023 Posted November 11, 2020 I have Pan mapped to a "PA" shortcut. Start dragging the wall. PA while dragging. Pan - you can Pan multiple times if needed. Click to place endpoint. Works in continuous draw mode as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcowscarnival 10 Posted November 12, 2020 Glenn, I'm curious about your setup. If you would indulge a rudimentary question, how do you go about mapping that command to the "PA" shortcut? Is PA pressing "P" then "A" while in command? That would be most convenient for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskan_Son 2521 Posted November 12, 2020 For what its worth, the OOB shortcut for Pan is simply P 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcowscarnival 10 Posted November 12, 2020 I see, thanks Michael. I also now see how to call the pan command after initiating a wall command with the "way" I've been drawing walls. Thank you all, helpful as always and highly appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parkwest 139 Posted November 12, 2020 18 hours ago, Smn842 said: This is another reason why 3D mice are so useful as you can just pan and zoom as required with the other hand. Another lesser known benefit is even when in modal dialog boxes the currently active 2D or 3D plan window can still be moved around using a 3D mouse which can be useful if you forget to check something that's not quite in view before opening the dialog. I concur with this. Once you go 3D mouse, there’s no going back. Also like to add that the 3D mouse works in lots of other apps ie. Google Earth Pro, browsers, etc. you can use it to scroll up and down while reading this forum.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glennw 1023 Posted November 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said: For what its worth, the OOB shortcut for Pan is simply P Yes, but the problem with using single letter commands is that they preclude you from using any other shortcuts that start with P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites