builtright3 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Not sure if this is a glitch in the system or my settings. Patio electrical lights and plugs do not come up as exterior even though it is an exterior wall and there is no problem with the deck area Auto outlets show up in one bathroom but didn't place them in the other bathroom Even though I have a room divider in between the Living Room and Kitchen the auto outlets put them in both when I selected only the kitchen and also added them to the hallway. Shouldnt the room divider keep it separate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_N Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hi Joe, hard to offer an opinion when the plan is not posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Doug_N said: Hi Joe, hard to offer an opinion when the plan is not posted. My apologies. I should have been more clear. I'm not asking for a fix, I'm asking if anyone else is having similar problems with this in X12? If your not I will continue to figure it out myself but if this is typical behavior then I wont take the time to try and fix it. Not worth it. Thank you for your reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 7 hours ago, builtright3 said: Even though I have a room divider in between the Living Room and Kitchen the auto outlets put them in both when I selected only the kitchen and also added them to the hallway. Shouldnt the room divider keep it separate? No. Invisible walls are ignored when auto placing electrical. Make the invisible walls (room divider walls) visible, place outlets, make walls invisible. Quote Auto outlets show up in one bathroom but didn't place them in the other bathroom Did you click in the second bathroom to place outlets - and they just did not place? It should work. You need to click in each bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 8 hours ago, builtright3 said: Patio electrical lights and plugs do not come up as exterior even though it is an exterior wall and there is no problem with the deck area How did you place these points - I assume manually because auto place electrical doesn't work for external room types. I also assume you used the toolbar electrical drop down points. This will not give you exterior points - you need to select these from the library. The type of wall has nothing to do with the type of electrical point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, glennw said: No. Invisible walls are ignored when auto placing electrical. Make the invisible walls (room divider walls) visible, place outlets, make walls invisible. Did you click in the second bathroom to place outlets - and they just did not place? It should work. You need to click in each bathroom. Yes I clicked in the second bathroom and the outlets didn't place but the lights did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, glennw said: How did you place these points - I assume manually because auto place electrical doesn't work for external room types. I also assume you used the toolbar electrical drop down points. This will not give you exterior points - you need to select these from the library. The type of wall has nothing to do with the type of electrical point. Yes, I thought because it is an exterior wall the light would automatically place as an exterior light just like it did at back deck. However, I changed the patio to a porch and it worked as an exterior light. I didn't really know there was a difference between a patio and a porch as far as the electrical settings. Both are still exposed to the elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Where did the Patio room type come from? There is no Patio room type OOB. Did you create a new Patio room type? Room Name and Room Type are 2 completely different things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, builtright3 said: Yes I clicked in the second bathroom and the outlets didn't place but the lights did. You will need to post the plan if you want more help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, glennw said: Where did the Patio room type come from? There is no Patio room type OOB. Did you create a new Patio room type? Room Name and Room Type are 2 completely different things. I don't remember doing it but I must have at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, glennw said: You will need to post the plan if you want more help. Everything is resolved now. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 58 minutes ago, glennw said: You will need to post the plan if you want more help. It was kind of strange. When I put two vanity cabinets side by side the auto place outlets would not work but when I separate them it works fine. If I take out one of the sinks it works fine also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, solver said: My X12 install has a Patio room defined. Thank you for sharing I thought I was loosing my mind thinking I created it! You would think the patio would have the same settings as the porch as far as electrical is concerned. The only difference between the two is the patio is slab on grade and in the back yard and the porch is usually off the front entrance (slab or raised). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb222 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 12:59 AM, glennw said: There is no Patio room type OOB. My copy of X12 has a Patio room type in the OOB Residential Template. As does X11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 Anyone that can answer, When you place one of these fixtures, depending on the room type and where you place it such as a wall or ceiling they will automatically change to what is required for the condition. Such as a vanity light, wall sconce, can light.... My question: Is there a way to change those default settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkwest Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, builtright3 said: Anyone that can answer, When you place one of these fixtures, depending on the room type and where you place it such as a wall or ceiling they will automatically change to what is required for the condition. Such as a vanity light, wall sconce, can light.... My question: Is there a way to change those default settings? Are you asking about the default setting - electrical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, parkwest said: Are you asking about the default setting - electrical? I know where this dialog box. I will try to ask the question better; If I want a surface mount light to set automatically in a bedroom and a can light to automatically set in a laundry room or hallway, how can I set that? Or is it even possible? I'm talking about automatic placement, not having to go in the library and get it. Chief can change this but can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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