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Has anyone else noticed the programming inconsistencies when setting up a window Frame and Casing to match a door Jamb and Casing so you have a consistent exterior look with both doors and window.  It is like they were programmed by completely different departments who never talk.

 

There is so much wrong it must be totally baffling for new users.

 

I will be sending my report in to tech but wondered if anyone else has already done so ?

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YES !  been that way a long time and I have never understood why ... I don't understand why it is a Reveal on Doors and a Overlap on Windows.  ie completely opposite settings ..... and who ever heard of a 0" overlap?  set by default?  be a bit breezy around those Windows I think

 

But No I haven't reported it.... perhaps move this to Suggestions too?

 

 

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Ok, Glad it is not just me.  But the Overlap vs. Reveal settings are just the tip of the iceburg.  The "Fit Frame to Wall" is not correct for both doors and windows.  One may be correct but the other is not.  Then there are the R.O. settings : :( that are totally wack. I am not so sure there is a way to explain why setting a bottom rough opening for a door creates a gap in the framing above the door.  And just for fun the house wrap does not trim the same for both.  So yes it could be a cold winter if they don't get fixed.

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Doors and windows need a complete redo. 

 

I could make a full time job of documenting and reporting these things, but how they work now is only part of the problem.

 

The real issue is Chief thinks these things are acceptable and are unwilling/unable to fix.

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1 minute ago, solver said:

The real issue is Chief thinks these things are acceptable and are unwilling/unable to fix.

 

I hope that is not true.  If it is then maybe a tactical change is required.

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:)  yes the Reveal thing was just the 1st example that came to mind ...

 

I have NEVER seen an RO under a Door but maybe that is just how I install them ?  No, it is another example of Chief's Programmers not knowing how things work in the Real World , they need to to a Practicum OnSite for 6 months :)

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Agreed.  I quietly struggle with these casing options when trying to get the look I want.  It becomes an iterative process.

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And what about the over simplified door jambs that is the only one possible.

We need the ability to define a door jamb profile with a cad profile or molding shape.

We need things like a simply rebated jamb...double rebated..or any shape that we want to define.

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There is also a big issue getting the heights and casings right when you try to block/mulled door and window units together

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