BenPalmer

Marc, the file is attached to the first post in this thread.

Yep, this is an old file. I have Chief 9.5 installed on my computer, and it won't open it. Gives me the message below. You will need to find someone that has an older version saved on there computer. Maybe tech support can open??? Good luck.

This topic sounded familiar, so did a quick search and found this: https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/7546-google-drive-and-the-red-x/

Another article confirming everything Perry said: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-driver-364-47-pulled,31370.html

Is this an Ariel/Chief conflict? Seems like those that are having the most trouble are those who use Ariel??? Are non-Ariel font users having issues as well?

Thanks Perry!

It's helpful to make the change Michael mentioned in the profile plan as well to ensure it is set that way for future projects.

Had the same problem yesterday. Crashed one of my systems. To fix it, i pulled the video card out. Rebooted using Intel Video Driver. Uninstalled Nvidia driver. put video card back in. Installed driver, and all is good now. Nice scare though. I'm definitely not updating the other computers until the next release. Didn't think to mention it here. Thanks for doing that, and I'm adding my second to it.

One thought, but might not be related: if it is an old plan, and you use Chief's default Blueprint font, then they made the font bigger with the release of X7 which means it's bigger in X8 as well. This will cause the issue. If this is the case, either deal with it and change the formatting and it will work going forward, or change to a different default font, or install the old font (pre X7). I do both: install old font so older plans aren't effected, and have changed my default font so that new plans aren't effected if they decide to change it again. This change was a big annoyance and discussed in a previous thread. On another note: I did a couple undos the other day and saw that formatting change which was strange because it wasn't there before the undo. Did redo, then undo again and it went back. Couldn't explain it. Just some thoughts, hopefully they help someone on this thread or someone else reading this thread. If I find the old thread on this, I'll link to it in an edit of my post.

If I have a connected/closed multi sided polyline of varying angles in CAMERA view the parallel tool only works to the bottom of the shape, and not the sides or top. It works as expected in floor plan, but not in a CAMERA. An example of this is drawing some cad that I want to parallel to the roof. Anyone else seeing this? If i disconnect the line from the closed polyline, then it will parallel to that line, but not when it is closed.

It shows up in both new and old plans. But migration issues are becoming more and more of an issue. I have a huge database of plans that I rely on all the way back to version '97 (or whatever it was called, 5 or 6?), and I do not want to redraw them when I bring a plan forward that I will modify for a client because of the extra time involved. I can typically get a pretty clean plan through importing attributes, etc. and I'm on my way. Foundations have the most difficult migration issues, especially with slab on grade and when mixed with a basement. Chief just isn't optimized for that type of construction. Chief also doesn't like me using old plans, they always want me to start over whenever any issue comes up and they always blame it on that, which may be justified, but just like any software you use for a long time, that will always be part of the process, so they need to fix issues that come up in relation to migration.

Dermot, thanks for your reply, and apologize for my curt response. I opened the plan I sent to tech support, and many of the offending spots are fixed. However, with just a few seconds of playing with it, I quickly had the problem again, so not sure how thorough the team was in investigating the issue. The picture in the other post is the same problem I outlined in my report. Perhaps I didn't detail it well enough. I will resend the same plan showing the problem and how to recreate it and several other plans demonstrating the problem in as many ways as I am seeing it in hopes to get it fixed in all situations instead of just some of them. I can live with it for now, but I have to draw in cad lines to clean it up, and it is causing 3D artifacts that I can cleanup in layout, but not in presentation views I provide to the client without using 3rd party image alteration software to clean it up which is time consuming. Definitely need a fix on this ASAP. Hope we don't have to wait as long as we did between Beta and Final release. I think I'll go crazy. Thanks again for your attention to this. It is appreciated.

My bug didn't get fixed. So disappointing: https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/7859-naming-wall-types/?p=71842

https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/7836-3d-connexion/?p=69930

Michael, thanks for the further investigation. Had a chance to play with it a little more. 1. I was aware of, but extra steps to achieve what we could before. 2. this is interesting. However, this doesn't work if it is a closed polyline. It isn't very intuitive either. I found I had to select the segment, which selects the entire group, then select the same segment again, then start selecting others. So can work, but my brain would definitely need to be trained to think this way since I don't think to turn on 'connect cad segments' to disconnect cad segments . However, most times I need this function is when a polyline is closed. (i use it alot on closet plot/site plans). In summary. I realize I can get what I need done, but there are extra steps involved to get there compared to the old tool we had. I would certainly like the more intuitive obvious edit parts tool back. Or as mentioned, perhaps the disconnect segment could have a 'sticky' mode and even a fence option added to it and I can live with that as that would be much more intuitive since most tools do have a sticky mode.

Thank Michael. Appreciate the time you put into that video. One thing to point out is that disconnect edge is a child of the line tool. So when you hit 'w' the tool is there. See screen shot below. However, I don't like this, i want it disassociated with the line parent and back with the 'edit behavior tools' where it was before and where it belongs. If I'm in this mode, then it overrides the line mode and I have to go back into line mode. Which doesn't make sense to me. My guess is that putting it there helped to turn it off automatically when switching to another drawing/editing tool. Like you, I like the 'connect CAD segments' toggle. There are several times I want to draw cad lines and don't want them to connect, so this is a welcome feature. Ultimately, i don't like that we lost the ability to multiple select individual objects that are connected. This wasn't demonstrated in the video. While you can select each line while in that 'mode', you can't multiple select the line. Big loss of functionality and not sure why that was removed. I know chief got lots of support tickets and there are lots of posts on problems users had as a result of having edit object parts being on without them knowing. So if that is the motivation, then hide the tool or turn it off automatically like they do with the new disconnect tool, but don't get rid of it. Big disappointment to me. Never could understand why a software company would remove functionality. Please bring it back. Perhaps adding a sticky mode to the 'disconnect cad segment' would be an acceptable solution. Not as good, but at least we would get the function back in some form. But i'm not a fan of the sticky mode thing because it's an extra click vs double clicking like we use to do with things like complete line breaks, or copying, etc. But I understand the consistency between programs. But why eliminate the double click, let us do both. Maybe this loss feature turned into a feature request.

Yes, but it doesn't work the same. Before I could toggle on 'edit polyline parts' and say i had a connected polyine with 6 lines, I could control + select two or three of them and delete or edit that line. Now, with it on, you can not multiple select lines, you can only select one. I would have to either select them one by one, and they will then be disconnected when I back out of that tool and can select what I want, or select them one at a time and disconnect them, then go back in and select them all to edit, or match properties or some other way of editing. Let me know if I'm missing something. Look forward to your video.

Yeah, I like the new tool for quick edits. But I don't like that we lost the other tool because now I can't multi select different edges to delete or edit. Unless I'm not understanding how to do that?

Yeah, I can see what you mean, but I have it in a different spot. The problem with the tool is that it is tied to the CAD line group, and so when I turn it on, the cad line group goes to that as well. That is annoying and would like to disassociate them from each other. Might have to create my own group of tools for that to work. So my wish is for the tool to be separated from the CAD line parent/child association. Definitely don't like that being tied together. Will have to think about this. Yeah, I actually like that for a quick line separation. But when I want to bulk grab different parts or lines, this tool takes way to long. So I need to: Select line, click on disconnect, then delete/edit. But with the original tool I could toggle it on, then select multiple lines and bulk edit/delete. This is a loss of functionality as far as I'm concerned as well as slower.

Thank you both. The 'disconnect edges' is what I was looking for. The confusion is that when I imported my X7 toolbars, Chief automatically replace my 'edit polyline parts' icon in the toolbar with the 'connect cad segments' tool. What they need to do if someone has that icon/tool is replace it with the 'disconnect edges' and things will continue on smoothly. Hopefully this thread helps someone else as well. Appreciate the time and feedback.

Seems 'Edit Polyline Parts' has been removed or renamed and refunctioned to 'Connect CAD Segments'?. Perhaps the 'Disconnect Selected Edge' is trying to replace the function? I really hope we didn't lose this function as the disconnect is slower and way more clicks, and the 'Connect CAD Segments' is only when drawing new, and not editing existing. It is good in some cases, but not all. Will someone point me to the renamed tool or how to use the 'edit polyline parts' function in X8? Thank you.

Did that with no joy. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It has more to do with the door jamb settings, but even that isn't consistent. Chief tells me they are working on it. Thanks for the suggestion.

I was not able to get Chief 9.54 to install on Windows 7 or 8(.1) with USB lock. However, if you search some very old threads on the old Chief forum, you will find some posts on how to 'possibly' get an emulated (virtual desktop) version of WIndows XP on your machine to get it to work. I did get it to work for a little while doing that, but it was buggy and not worth it since it wasn't consistent. Only way it is guaranteed to work is if you have a password version (no hardware lock) but not many people had those. I haven't tried it on Windows 10, but I'm not hopeful. Perhaps the virtual desktop works better with that.

A bug I'm having an issue on and have reported: See post here: https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/7859-naming-wall-types/?p=71842

Graeme, for me it occurs when using openings that butts up against a 90 degree wall and it doesn't draw the line where they meet, and produces artifact lines in elevations as well. I haven't seen it discussed on this forum, so perhaps it is the way I work, but I have reported it to Chief. It shows up in new plans and plans brought forward from X7 and before that didn't show the problem. I sure hope they fix it in the next update. In attached screen shot, i've circled where lines aren't being produced, it's leaving it blank or white where the opening is meeting the adjacent wall. If i pull it back an inch, the line will show up.