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Rocky, does all of this explain things to you? More importantly, do you agree that you should start your roof planes on the outside of framing?

I'm kinda busy this morning but maybe someone here can clarify for you. You still need to place the roof in the correct location for all kinds of reasons.

Exactly. Here is something you should know and one reason why you should start the roof plane in the correct location. Something to know- Let's say your "1st. floor default" has a rough ceiling height of 97-1/8". This is what Chief is setting your plate height at when you place a roof in the correct location (outside of main layer). Why you should place the roof plane in the correct location (manual roofs)- Lets say that on the 1st floor you have all rooms using the default ceiling height (97-1/8") BUT one area has a 10 ft. ceiling and you need a 10' roof plate for that roof area. If you manually build a roof plane out in space away from the wall, Chief will place that roof plane and plate height based on the 1st floor default ceiling height instead of placing it at the 10' plate because it has no room definition to define where to place the roof. Could you still fix the roof? Yes but why not model the house the way it is intended by Chief. You're going to create all sorts of problems down the road if you don't model things correctly.

Rocky, look where your baselines are at. As mentioned in another post, you need to start the roof planes on the outside of framing.

You know Chief is having an increase on SSA Jan.8th.

Rocky, the replies above are correct. Here is a reminder of what I recommended you to do when drawing a roof plane manually. 1. Set the pitch you want to use for that roof plane and the overhangs if you want. Overhangs can be changed later though. 2. Turn on the angle snap so you're drawing straight. 3. Be sure the "on angle snap" is turned on so that when you're starting the roof plan, it will snap to the outside of main layer (assuming you didn't change the AltQ setting or general wall default setting which by default it will be set for outside of main layer). 4. Be sure you're zoomed in close enough to the wall to that you can see that you're snapping to the outside main layer. Doing these steps will help a lot. Also remember that the roof plate height is based off of the room "rough ceiling height" shown for that room where you're starting the roof plane which is located in that room dbx.

Rocky, I might be able to do a TeamViewer meeting with you this evening if you like. Have a job to look at out of town today.

Rocky, if you're just wanting to add shed roofs to those two bump outs, you could do it manually in less time that it took you to write the post.

It looks like the arched roof below it might be the cause.

Rocky, at some point in time, you'll be manipulating a roof manually. It's very good to know how to manually draw roofs. Also, if you know and understand how to draw roofs, a manual roof is just as "stable" as an auto roof.

Actually he has a gable roof with a full return from one end to another.

He did his "dutch gables" okay but they're really not dutch gables though. He had 2 roof planes too many...deleted them and reworked the roof manually and joined together fine. All is good now.

Hopefully he has a better idea now on his problem without other walls moving.

Rocky, you shouldn't need to do that. There is probably some reason why it's doing that. I haven't had any walls jump in years and when it did, it was usually associated with stairs. I need to see what you're doing.

Rocky, I'll call you mid morning. We'll do a team viewer meeting. There's a couple of things you should probably know.

Depending on the shower, I prefer to do it like Graham for the same reasons.

Scott, that worked this morning when I did it again. For some reason I couldn't get it to work yesterday. Thank you.

Well that turned them off, both of them. I only wanted the one ceiling plane turned off like the roof plane.

I'll try it and let you know.

Here is a plan describing how the ceiling plan doesn't turn off in camera views. Read text in plan view and check camera views. Ceiling plane issue.plan

Wow, sometime today I'll post a plan. Didn't think it was too hard to place 4 walls, auto roof and 2 ceiling planes.

Yea Shane I thought of that but due to this situation that wouldn't help for I needed one ceiling plane to show. This is the 1st. time I can think of that I can't turn something off in layer display.

My brother has been able to do it by coping the joints but I certainly wouldn't recommend it unless your very good at coping.

BTW, since I could fix this on my computer by doing this, I don't believe the problem is with you dwg import. It's probably because something is a million miles away from the plan....even a real short cad line can cause this.

Ok Mark, try this. I've seen this problem before and this is my quick fix. I tried it before posting this and it worked for me. When I hit "fill screen". it was showing as a small dot in plan view as shown by you and Mick. It also took a little time to bring up. This will probably solve your issues. It did for me. 1. Open a new blank plan. Would probably be good to be sure your default settings are the same. 2. Go to original plan with the problem and be on the 1st. floor. 3. Go to an "All On" layer set to be sure everything is on. 4. Be sure you are zoomed in close enough so you can see everything. 5. Go to top edit tab>Edit Area>Click on Edit Area (All Floors)> draw a marquee around the entire plan without going too far outside the plan. 6. With everything selected in the marquee, hit copy. 7. Go to new plan you opened and hit Control/ ALT/ V or hit paste in place. 8. Name your new plan file before closing. Problem should be fixed. When I did this, the plan opened fast, "Fill Screen" tool worked just fine. No problems. If you don't follow, I can do an online meeting with you and show you.