GeneDavis

Solved, sort of. Unchecked the "retain" thing for a single selected plane, checked "build framing" and it gave me the subfascia, the ridge, and an unwanted rafter. But no lookouts. I started another thread about the lookouts.

Can this be done? I'm stuck. Roof is trussed, which of course must be done manually. I unchecked "retain roof framing" and built framing but Chief failed to autobuild lookouts. The only framing tool I can see to use is the one for drawing rafters, and it places lookouts oriented plumb, when everyone knows lookouts are rotated to match pitch.

This is what it says in Help and yes I have this box checked. "One checkbox is unique to the Structure panel of the Roof Plane Specification dialog: check Retain Roof Framing to keep the selected roof plane’s framing from being deleted and replaced when roof framing is rebuilt."

Yes, retain roof framing is on. I thought that is right for this situation so that the BUILD does not compromise anything I already placed.

I framed the roof with a combination of trusses and sticks, and now want to build roof framing in order to get ridge fills, subfascia, lookouts, etc. Must have set something to block it because when I do the build framing command, nothing happens. Fawn_Ridge_Downsized.plan

Do my little three-roof-plane test. Work with Chief as it is and select all three and edit what you can. Try everything, because you do have editing capabilites. How you edit opens up other fields for edit. Go back and do it differently. Observe results. Now tell us how you want it to work that is different. Be specific. The roof planes in this test are like three postage stamps, three different sizes, all pitched, in 3D space. Chief gives us control of their pitch by letting us fix either the ridge, the baseline, or the fascia top as the pivot, and then having fixed that, change the pitch. Chief also gives us control of the plane by us specifying the z-height (elevation) of any two of the pivot lines (ridge, baseline, fascia top), in which case Chief computes and returns the pitch stated in x/12 or degrees. Chief's editing, when we group select or multi-select roof planes, is consistent with what we see presently, because we get all the possible editing capability we can have for COMMON edits of planes which are dissimilar in various ways. Solver showed clearly how differently it works when selecting two planes with common runs, versus selecting planes with differing runs. But hey, maybe I am wrong and not seeing what you see. Show me. Be specific.

Do a little test. It's quick and easy. Draw a new rectangular floor plan, divide it into three by drawing two interior walls, then set each room at different heights. They are all set to default at first, so just change two. Now manually draw a little roof plane over an outside wall of each room. Make sure the run of each is different. Change two of the three to have differing pitches from default. Now you have three absolutely different roof planes, Each has a unique pitch, a unique run (the 2D length from baseline to ridge), unique fascia heights, and since we are in 12, we are looking at the shadowboard top height also. In this test, since we've not placed shadowboards, that field is blank. OK, select all three, and study the DBX and how things work. Tell us how you want Chief to work for you, different from how it works now.

It is logical to me why you can’t get full edit control of multiple roofs in some circumstances. Every roof has a RUN. In plan view you DRAW it by the drag after the baseline drag. The DBX dialog gives us the ability to edit either VERTICAL POSITION of the plane (by locking pitch) or its ROTATION & VERTICAL POSITION. But no DBX edit of run is permitted. Look at it. Nothing you do in the DBX changes the plan view of the roof you are editing. So it is perfectly understandable why the only roofs you can multiple select and have full height and rotational editing control for are those with everything equal including RUN. And that is the way it should be.

Where is the code reference found in NY Residential (or IBC) that stipulates this? All I can find is that the gathering floor is to be sloped.

Hint: complete your signature line in your profile (it's easy) so we can see what software you are using and what your system is about. And try the search function. There have been lots of threads about this.

Do the math and you can see that an 8" stemwall with a 2x4 framing wall, no sheetrock on stemwall side, spaced 1/2" away from the 'crete face, yields a 12" dimension outside stemwall to inside framing wall. With the wall positioned as I want, with the 1/2" gap, the window won't behave. Only when I open the gap by another inch, to 1-1/2 away from the stemwall, will the window behave. I wonder if a room divider wall in that space somewhere, maybe 1/4" inside the stemwall, will change things.

In the pic shown here of the plan view, there is a doubled wall, a 2x4 framed wall with drywall only on inside face, spaced 1/2" from face of the 8" stemwall, and maybe that is causing the problem.

A walkout basement has its floor 0 walls done as pony walls, 2x6 framing upper half, 8" concrete stemwall lower half, aligned both at main layer out. The window I place in the upper wall has its frame of depth for the stemwall, and of course the trim is positioned such. How to fix?

Nope. Worked for floor 0, but not for floor 1. My default for floor 1 is 9' and I made it all 10' before placing interior walls. So floor 1 the default is where I want to go, but all the rooms are non-default and specified at 10'.

I want to leave the roof right where it is, but I have a plan with 10' plate heights common everwhere, main floor and basement. This one is in an HOA neigborhood with a height limit. I want to keep absolute highest ridge where it is, and basement floor elevation absolute also. I will edit the roof after. How to do and sequence, please.

Look at the product. How would it even work unless placed along a ridge? The manufacturer shows no variants of it for use at the upper edge of a shed (a.k.a. skillion) roof.

Since it sits on the ridge, half is on one roof plane, half on the other. Not sure how a "sits on roof" symbol can work for you, for an item sharing planes. Ten minutes with Sketchup and it's done, but then you need to import, place, and edit its position. Not much work at all.

Start with telling us what software you are using. And note how almost all of us here do it using the signature feature in our profiles.

I didn't do a room divider between. I just made one of the walls "no room division." And presumed that all the OP wants is the 3D look.

Use the signature feature in your profile to tell us what software you use, and the system on which it is run. Otherwise, you won't get much help here.

Don't do it that way, please. Just post the pic. No one wants the download.

That's what I do, but I'm not so concerned with the 3D.

Yes, for sure, brick finish and count stairs twice will skew the numbers.

"Our appraisers calculate square footage based on exterior dimensions, so the living area square footage that shows below each plan is significantly less than the total square footage." Significantly less? You must live in the land of significantly thicker wall finishes. An extra inch of perimeter thickness outside the framing (sheathing and fibercement siding) on a typical 2400 sf ranch house adds less than 18 sf to the area. So 2400 Chief versus 2418 your appraisers. Am I missing something?

For those reading this, one can get a complete materials list for a wall by selecting the wall using the Material List Polyline tool. It's all there when you do it this way. And it is explained in HELP. I had not read the details.