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Thanks michael, I will give it a shot tomorrow.... And if it works I will start capitalizing your name.

Hey Tommy, is this how you deal with electric outlets on islands? I have never been able to figurateded it out.

Everybody should give Tommy a POINT for this one.

Interesting, Tommy says copy to user library first and then change the option to sit on floor and THEN you can put it in plan. This is a super duper secret handshake, thanks Tommy.

I will check to see if Mac Has built in PDFS.

Using CA. 'S PRINT TO PDF on the PC.

Andy Gump, that might be Andy Grump..... hey Andy, I am Mister Grumpy, please don't tread on my territory........ but thanks Andy for the help.

I assume that is adobe illustrator which is free at App Store. Thanks for the heads up, I will check it out.

My method also.

Now you are talking about important stuff, how about them Cowboys? And what about the Chargers..... life ain't too bad for me this year.

Exactly, not sure if I want to tackle something that is so limiting, multiple line notes and labels must be in the near future....... it must be....... we need it......

I think this calls for the CORNER WINDOW method that some of us worked so hard to get....... but the arch for the window is something I do not believe we tackled.

That my friend is pretty darn good. So those are not actually windows? You used a railing/pony wall for the glass.... not bad...... but you do not have a header..... not perfect... but not bad,,,,

Working on a MAC, I have (13)- 8-1/2x11 PDF's to print. They are on only two separate sheets in layout, that is all I am printing. So drawn on MAC, save through DROP BOX, go to PC to print, the file for these two layout sheets printed at 300 DPI with (13) 8-1/2x11 PDF'S on (2) layout sheets is 11.6 MB. If I add the the first 16 sheets of my plans (8.6 MB), the total file is over 20.0 MB. Actual size is 20.2 MB. If over 20 MB I cannot email. If I print at 144 dpi I get a warning that the print quality may not be very good. Is anybody else having this issue, or I am the only Sod in Chief Land with this problem? The reason for (13) PDF's is Title-24 in the land of *** and nuts. I can't believe I am the only person that is experiencing this.

Double click the window, the dvx will open...... dvx = DBX

Open window dvx, go to arch and select FLAT TOP ARCH

Jeez, I was just thinking of this and wondering if I was offending anybody, certainly wasn't intentional, I think I was going back to the Ewell Gibbons commercials about Grape Nuts. Anyway, 66% of my siblings bat for the "other team", and some of our best friends are of "The Community"... so please do not read anything into this term...... I think I might have to refer to The Great State of California in a different way...... but I do like "fruits and nuts"..... I will think about it. I apologize if anybody was offended.

.... that is so huge, thanks for bringing it up again, not only PLINES but CLOSED PLINES.

BTW, you should not have to uses Perry's trick, but if it works..... I had not thought of that until Perry mentioned it.

I get it...... can't 'splain it, post a mini plan and someone may be able to figure it out....... I think I had the situation recently and I don't remember solving it.

Yep, Gerry has been all over this like white on....... seriously, this is nothing new, there has been quite a few of us who have been looking for this stuff.

You know P. I have been in this business as long as you, 40 years, and I remember back in 1979 when my Dad who had his own design firm bought a HUGE, I mean HUGE computer to do some CAD plans. And I remember wondering at the time if it would be possible to write a computer program that would draw a house in 3D. I thought about all of the variables and I did not think it possible. Seriously, I did not think it was possible. But here we are, 35 years later, and CA has done just that. With the multitudes of variables that comes with modeling a house, CA has done a pretty darn good job. In fact I almost take it for granted now. The point being....... Hey CA, if you can do what you have done so far, it could not be too tough to give us the auto labeling for framing members ...... thank you, thank you very much.

I have to say P., I have seen some of your structural plans, and they look nice..... I could learn a thing or two from you. But to CA, you guys could really take a big jump with us guys drawing structural plans if you were to talk to Perry and maybe Joey, (ignore JC) and get their insight as to what kind of tools would be very useful. I think most of us are more into model building and less into cad work, and some of this stuff (labels for boxes and structural members) would really really be a huge time saver for us. I have a feeling you guys aren't too far away from hitting a home run.

I am telling you Kirk, you get us auto labels for beams, headers, posts, filled posts and cross blocks in posts, you will have some very happy campers here on the west coast.

And Kirk just so you are aware, auto labels for headers, posts and beams is not a luxury for us power users. This kind of stuff is part of every set of plans. We call out this info on every set of plans. This is as important to us as being able to draw a wall. I know that you guys will eventually get to this stuff, I am just hoping you get to it sooner or later. Just because you do not get a lot of requests for it does not mean it is not important.