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I had not recognized the fact that the terrain did not auto update unless a 3d view was open, ( I ain't as smart as Glenn). However, I have a hot key to REBUILD TERRAIN so it is not a big deal for me. Just a thought for you guys who want to see the terrain updated without having to close the program.

My friend Perry said something that we should remember. We always want the program to get better, and I am as guilty as anybody in trying to figure out a way to do it NOW and ignoring what should be a feature request. Yes Jon, we do like your request. And thanks to Dermot for being on top of this.

Okay Robert, so you have to go to the reference manual to find out how it works... now that I think of it, it's a darn good approach. But Robert, I have not looked into this yet...... but suppose you put a FLAT REGION across multiple elevation lines....... do you think the FLAT REGION takes the average elevation of the elevation lines......... nuts, I suppose I should read the manual....

BTW, what I noticed on this plan is Rashid is using some FLAT REGIONS, a FLAT REGION? What the heck is that? I have never used one. What is a FLAT REGION? Well, it does not have a defined elevation, I have not fully investigated it, but why would someone use a FLAT REGION in lieu of a ELEVATION REGION. With a ELEVATION REGION, you can defined the elevation of region, with a FLAT ELEVATION REGION you cannot define the elevation. So why use one in lieu of the other. Inquiring minds want to know.

Front left corner of house there is a terrain region with a defined elevation, delete it and all is well.

Joe, I have tried both sides, I have tried voodoo chants, I have tried the rain dance, I have found nothing that works. Even if I found something that works, should it be this difficult? Mickey and I are both having problems, I cannot explain it.

A very very short vid showing you what I am seeing. http://youtu.be/w70b9y7IgAk

Would you agree that the schedule callout is the same as the object label? I believe they are one in the same, the big difference is the schedule callout is in a circle or a hexagon or something.

That is not correct. If I have a label arrow attached to lumber, it reads correctly, if I change to TJI, I lose the correct label, I change back to lumber and I get correct label, I can go back and forth all day, never reconnecting arrow, and it will read correctly if I use lumber, it will not read correctly if I use a TJI.

My point is I can callout the size of the unit as well as calling out a schedule number. Am I not doing what Dermot said I could not do? I am not sure I understand the difference. You say that I can't display 2 SEPARATE items, I suppose I am displaying 2 items BUT THEY ARE NOT SEPARATE. Would you agree with what I am saying?

I am not sure if I agree with the above statement. See pic below, it is calling out not only the label, but also the schedule callout. The only difference is my SCHEDULE CALLOUT does not have a circle or square or whatever shape on might choose. So my window and door labels not only call out the size, it also refers to a schedule number.

Joe, I tried those settings, still no go. Again, I had arrow pointing to a piece of lumber, label good, change lumber to tji and I lost label, turned back to lumber and correct label came back. My computer is not recognizing the tji's.

Good thinking Mickey, I did the same and it recognized the 2x joist. Confirming what you found.

Joe, post what it should be and I will try again. This is silly, should the grid snaps be on or off..... you say it works if they are on or off...... they do not work for me whether they are on or off. Why do I have to do a rain dance to get this stuff to work?

Does not work for me. I am getting Mickey's results. Bottom line, if I have to turn snaps off, this is nonsense. CA will fix this eventually

Larry, I watched your 3rd vid, you deleted the two terrain regions and observed contours, no flat pad. I downloaded the same plan as you, I deleted the TERRAIN ELEVATION REGIONS, and I did not get any contour lines. My pad was flat. Something is going wrong with your computer...... I think it has to do with the auto rebuild terrain which I have checked 24/7. Somehow, your auto rebuild terrain is not working.

I use the SAM, so my defaults remain static from plan to plan. I did go back to check some older plans and FLATTEN PAD was unchecked (good), so I suppose at one point while editing THIS plan, I checked the FLATTEN PAD box for some reason. Again, thanks Glenn for the fix, easy peasy.

Genius at work again. Thanks Glenn!

This is a comment from a Buddy who looked at the same plan. I think he nailed it when he said I agree, if CA has this memory, it can definitely cause problems. This might be an explanation as to why some of my terrains do not behave correctly. However I do understand that there is a need for a "memory"..... i.e. temporarily make a wall non room def for a room that does not have a default floor elevation, and then make the wall a room def wall.... I would want the room to remember my non default floor elevation. A slippery slope for sure. Bottom line, I need to be able to clear the terrain "memory" if this is the cause of my terrain problem.

Not true, it has been discussed and reported ad naseum. It's just not fixed for some reason.

Okay guys, have at it. The terrain consists of 3 items. 1 terrain and 2 terrain elevation regions. There is a dip in front of garage door (not good), and the terrain on the left hand side of house should be 8" below the slab (it is about 18" above the slab). Delete any of the two terrain regions, and the terrain behaves. BBB SAVAGE PLAN 3 junk 2 POST 1.plan.zip

I consider myself pretty good with terrains. Terrains can be a bit quirky, however I can usually get the terrain to work. But I have had two projects recently where the terrains are not behaving. Has anybody else experienced this. Is anybody out there doing terrains and having difficulties with terrains in X7?

Okay, got it, it work on your PC but it is not working on my MAC. It should not be this hard. It should not be this hard. It should not be this hard. It should not be this hard. I am going straight to the top to complain.... I wonder if Lynn has time to see me.

BTW Joe, this is a pretty darn good solution to calling out RR, cj and FJ, it just needs to be better. Spacing should be auto and somehow, these arrows need to stick in case I edit the size of the roof plane.... you get it, auto baby.... it's a nice start to the ultimate solution. Since you are one of the muckity mucks on the user panel, you can bring this up.

They are not all lumber in my plan. If you go up to second floor and check out structure, they are I-joists. I have I-joists at second floor and lumber at first floor. Here is a pic of what I get.