Alaskan_Son

We use both and I agree with Eric. They are entirely different tools. Barely comparable at all in my opinion. What do you do for a living? And can you be more specific about how you would be using the software?

Yep. This works for drawing walls. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well for other operations. Steve, Now you have 5 options. Hopefully 1 of them will work for you.

Whatever you do, please don't attach the plan. It makes figuring things out much more difficult. Taking wild guesses is much more efficient for everyone involved ;-)

I couldn't open either

I was wondering how you would operate the scroll bars without your mouse and so I started messing around with it for a bit. By golly, you're right. Never knew this functionality existed... Left click to start operation as usual...Move mouse pointer out of view window...Right click off screen without letting go of left mouse button...Let go of left mouse button. Now you can use scroll bars and simply left click to finish operation. Very cool. Thanks for starting me down the path to this little hidden feature Joe!!

You can use the arrows keys to pan around the plan with your free hand. That's about the best I've come up with.

Hey, that's cool. Thanks.

Not a solution, but... That would be an insane amount of options to print up!!

To add a little detail to what Joe said... The Texture tab is used for standard renders and ray traces. The Pattern tab is used to control what displays in Vector views.

OR...you can simply marquis select them...Make CAD Block or Make Architectural Block...and then add them to library.

I think its because they are both polylines. The polygon is simply a polyline that has been automatically adjusted to the shape of a polygon for you.

Maybe add your vote to this suggestion... https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/5553-custom-dimension-tool-or-override-option/

Aww man!!! That seems ridiculously obvious now. Thanks Scott.

That makes sense Glenn. Thank you.

This feels like a really silly question but I've never run into it before now... Is there a way to acurately set the rotation of an orthographic elevation camera? I have a wall thats at a totally off angle and can't seem to figure out a way to get the camera perpendicular. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You're of course welcome sir.

I believe what you are missing is that during previous attempts at playing around with settings, you unchecked the default box next to floor structure.

Also, in order for changes to the default floor structure to affect all existing floors, those floors would need to have the floor structure default box checked.

To clarify something here. Unless there's something I'm missing (and I don't think there is)...You can't change floor structure defaults anywhere EXCEPT the place I described. Any other changes to the floor structure are for that floor or room only and are not changing any defaults.

Edit>Default Settings>Rooms>Normal Room You can change the floor structure defaults in there and it will change the floors for entire plan.

This isn't a very fair statement. Almost none of the other 3D architectural modelling programs are backward compatible. Only program that I know of that is is Archicad and even that one isn't totally backward compatible. It requires installing and running a type of file converter which is in and of itself a bit of a chore from what I can tell. With all the changes and additional features, tools, functions, and capabilities it would be next to impossible to make new drawings work in old programs. Its really just simple logic and has nothing to do with a company's "structured development methodology nor rigorous QA".

Dennis, "Installation notes" and construction/fabrication details are one and the same for us as our cabinet builder does most of our installations as well. That being said, it still doesn't alleviate the need for face frame details. For example, take a look at the first plan I attached (Borchardt). That was an 8 foot long island built in one piece with custom stile and rail placement and widths. How else would you communicate that? There were similar details in the other plans I attached which is why I chose them. I understand that the vast majority of people don't need to show those kinds of details, however for those of us who do I was just wondering if anyone found a quicker way to do so. Most specifically, a way to keep it live.

You know Eric, you chose the perfect words to get people to use the right forum. Concise, to the point, and in an encouraging, friendly spirit. Seems like it would be a simpler thing to do, but usually it comes across as long winded or insensitive. Nicely done.

Ya, shipping is pretty expensive but there are a lot of other reasons too. Semi custom brands wouldn't do a lot of the things we require, it would be much more difficult to communicate all the little intricacies and site conditions even if they would, if something shows up incorrect or broke we're waiting another 4 weeks for replacements, the list goes on. Most people here still do order cabinets from the lower 48 though.

It looks like you do something pretty similar to what I do. The plans look a little different, but the basics seem pretty close. I'm thinking that the ability to snap to multiple cabinet components and the option to put door and drawer fronts, shelves, and other components on their own layers might be the way to go. I'll give it a little more thought and post a suggestion when I have the time.