Alaskan_Son

I'm also the type of person who has to know the "right" way to do these things mathematically. Unless the house dimensions AND lot dimensions are VERY NEAR PERFECT its not actually possible to mathematically place the house any better than "close". You really need at least one absolute point and you have none of those. At best you can assume the measurements from the house corners were taken at 90 degrees from the lot lines but even that is questionable I would personally draw circles from the 3 corners of the house and rotate the lot till all 3 points touched. Then maybe copy and offset the lot lines to make sure it was really close that way. If there was any discrepancy after checking with the offsets I would break the difference and call it good.

Yeah, I realize that right after I posted it. For some reason I can't delete it though so I added an edit.

Cabinet module lines I believe. Easiest way to find stuff like that is to select one of the cabinets, click the object layer properties tool, and check all the layers associated with that item. Edit: While I was typing that up Scott gave you a better answer.

Just to reiterate. Your ceiling height was set wrong regardless of whether you built it to the interior side of the wall or the exterior (as mentioned in posts above). I bring attention to this because while I agree that drawing the ceiling to the exterior is the more accurate way to do it so that framing builds correctly for the majority of situations, drawing to the interior also works just fine (and would be the proper way to do it for some framing situations). It worked just fine for your plan once I entered the CORRECT numbers.

I understand the problems. Just stressing the ideal time to do things if you want to "copy" cameras. On the same note, anyone who saves all their cameras wouldn't have a problem doing what I said if people wanted to see changes late in the game. The problems would arise mostly when making changes in the middle of the process...not at the end.

Amen.

I think the key here is...if possible, set up all your cameras BEFORE making alternate plans and then make SAVE AS copies of those plans with cameras and all before making your changes.

Now that I think about it a little more, I think it might be easier to change ceiling heights (where necessary) than it would be to replace all the cameras...maybe.

Oh well...I tried. You still owe me some sand or a chili dog though. This wasn't part of our bet.

True, but if you want them to be positioned EXACTLY the same and/or have tons of them set up, that can be extremely time consuming. You should be one to talk anyway....Mister SAVE AS :-) You know, I think I might start calling you D. SAM Hall...what in D. SAM Hall is going on here!!? Yep...I like it.

Oops...I made a mistake in my first post. I said to lock ALL the layers except the camera layer(s). What I should have said was UNLOCK ALL layers except the camera layer(s), or lock ONLY the camera layer(s). I edited my first post to correct it.

No. As Kevin said, you may not copy cameras. You CAN however try this... 1. Do a "Save As" of your plan (giving it a new name of course). 2. Lock the camera layer(s) (and make sure the rest are all unlocked) 3. Marquis select everything and hit delete. 4. Clean up anything else that may have failed to delete. 5. Open your alternate plan (the one without cameras), select all, and cut 6. Go back to your plan with only cameras and "paste hold position" 7. Save As the new plan with cameras using the desired name

Todd, Its hard to tell whether we are getting through to you or not. It would be really nice if you would give us some feedback. It can really be frustrating to take a bunch of time helping people and never hear whether we fixed your problem or not, and if so, which solution it was...and maybe even a small thank you. The point of this forum is for us to help each other. Even if you don't have a lot to offer at this point in the way of advice, you could at least offer us some feedback as I mentioned above so we (and others) could all learn from it. With regard to your questions. Hopefully we answered number 2 above. As for number one...I would personally probably not use a railing wall as you did, but would manually use the edit handles and drag the wall down in plan view to make it shorter. There may be a better way, but that's my advice.

Thats bizarre. Never seen that before. How do you fix it? And could you attach the plan? I'm just curious to see whats going on.

Thank you for that explanation Jim. That makes perfect sense. I rarely use plans for displaying framing so I see why I haven't had an issue yet., and I can see now why "my" method (while fine for most situations) is really the wrong way. Good to know.

Optionally...see attached

And there's also the drywall to account for. The ceiling height is measured from the bottom of the rafter, not from the bottom of the drywall, so you would need to add an extra 1/2" to that ceiling height...195" 195" (the correct setting, give or take) minus 192-3/8" (what the lower edge of the ceiling in your plan was actually set to) equals 2-5/8" (your discrepancy).

I personally build ceilings exactly like you have and not per Jim's method (although I'm not knocking it at all). That's not your problem. Your problem is that your math and settings are incorrect... -Your ROUGH floor is at 133-3/4". Your finished floor is 3/4" thicker or 134-1/2". -The Outside Bottom Height of the ceiling plane I checked was set at 192-3/8" when it should be at least 194-1/2" (134-1/2"+60")

Maybe you can capitalize my name from now on in lieu of mailing me chili or sand.

They are the same method. Tommy's suggestion just encouraged a little more effort from the OP.

My mother is hispanic...grew up in New Mexico. I have the best of both worlds right here in Alaska. You can keep your chili Scott. Just mail me some warm sand and we'll call it even : ) Because you are definitely gonna lose.

I don't understand this statement. YOU have to set the heights for the custom ceiling plane. They're just set too low. Can you explain exactly how you set the ceilings up step by step?

Deal...try Tommy's version and see what happens. I would like Chili Colorado please.

I like Tommy's version better. Teach a man to fish...

Copy that : )