Alaskan_Son

I found the thread and it was indeed Marc's plan. I guess he must have sent it to me privately or something because I thought I remember actually looking at the plan. Anyway, you see from the screenshots that the window labels are showing through the actual walls...

I've definitely seen this problem in the past as well. Not with my own plan but with another user here on the forum. Don't remember who it was though and can't seem to find the thread anymore. Definitely needs to be reported to tech support though if we want to get it fixed. Probably wasn't reported last time it came up which is why it's showed up again.

Try this... NOTE: You may also find the need to uncheck Use XOR drawing sometimes as well.

It's the origin offset of your symbols that is the problem. Simply change the highlighted number to zero and you should be good to go...

I think most commonly that will happen if you click on the user library in your Chief Architect data folder. It tells Chief to load that library.

That's not exactly what I said. To clarify, I think it's working just fine in most situations, but there is something unique on your end that I think is causing the problem and I don't think it has anything to do with MAC vs. PC.

I've had problems getting certain CAD Blocks assigned to symbols myself sometimes and since you brought it up you made me want to figure it out so I played around with it for a few minutes this morning and realized that if your newly created CAD Block has a nested CAD Block (a CAD Block inside a CAD Block) it will not be available to choose from in the symbol's 2D Block tab. To use that block you'll have to explode it, explode the nested block(s) and then reblock. Hope that helps someone. I know I'll be able to sleep easier now.

No. I suspect you've never really learned to use your dimension tools properly. If you haven't figured it out by tomorrow I'll see if I can maybe make a quick video and I'm also available for one on one training sessions. In the meantime, maybe check the manual or help files.

Just add a few dimension lines manually at the desired locations. The temp dimensions are kinda handy in some circumstances but you shouldn't and can't be using them exclusively. P.S. Also try selecting the walls with your pointer more toward the opposite side of the wall for some of those situations and see if that helps at all.

I don't think its a MAC thing Scott. I just sent you a PM.

Select the dimensions you would like to be in front and Cut/Paste Hold Position (Control+X followed by Control+Alt+V).

Good morning Scott, Here's a quick crappy video... By the way, 2 other quick notes before I turn my computer off for the day... 1. I'm not sure why you didn't have any framing when you opened the plan. It was there when I opened it back up. Weird. 2. I also posted another plan for you back in post #44 that had auto framing turned on. Maybe have a play with that one too if you want. The layers are upside down in that one too by the way so I'm going to go back and fix it. Sorry, I wasn't really paying too close attention to that. I was really just trying to show the ability to change joist direction.

Yep. Draw one yourself or get one from the manufacturer. The cross section detail is going to depend on the specific product being used...otherwise I suspect it won't really be very useful.

When I said "material" I was referring to the framing material dimensions (2x6 ceiling framing).

Advanced search still doesn't work, and I'm not talking about a specific part of it. I'm talking about the whole thing. It doesn't seem to work AT ALL.

Yes, I am aware. See if you can make the joist direction arrow match your dropped ceiling material though.

Slightly different order but same basic process. I just built my framing first and then placed the joist direction lines. You placed your joist direction lines and then built framing. The biggest difference is that I had auto framing turned on. Whether it was intentional or not though, you bring up a very good point. If auto framing is turned off and we build one then the other, we no longer need to place the second joist direction in a different room... Multi-directional framing.plan

Agreed. Except that being able to control the 2 planes separately may actually be the bug. I'm afraid to report it in case they fix the wrong "bug".

I thought I already showed that except that they weren't at an off angle. How's this... Diagonal floor joists.plan Yes, I just used 2 joists direction arrows. Check out the plan. Its a little tricky sometimes and it may not always work because I think it requires both joist direction lines be placed over different rooms (even if it's just a very small area)... P.S. It seems to work best if you define the larger main floor first. Just make sure to place the joist direction line outside of the dropped ceiling room. Place the joist direction line for the dropped ceiling area second. After initial placement you can the readjust as necessary.

That was my point. We already can set the direction.

I haven't found this to be the case. What I have found impossible to control though is the label of the joist direction line...

Yes you can. Just set it as a room divider or another wall type set to be nothing but a gap.

Yep. Been discussed ad nauseam but in a very small nutshell... Revit...more expensive for full version, way overkill and much slower for average residential projects. More powerful though if you are doing a lot of commercial or complex/highly "modern"/free form residential. Sketchup...cheaper, maybe slightly easier to use for some things, but requires a crapload of plugins and add-ons to do what Chief can do OOB. Also slower IMO when comparing completed 3D models and 2D output apples to apples. AutoCAD...Really a 2D CAD app even though there's a 3D version. Kinda spendy for what you get but it still seems to be the standard for a lot of drafting shops. I think this is slowly dying though and unless you're already heavily invested in it or working for a company that requires it, I see no reason to start down that road. A lot of us use one or more of the above in addition to Chief to either supplement capabilities or for different projects. Chief is a good program though and I personally think its probably the best software out there for average to mid range higher end residential. Especially for smaller shops. And although a lot of guys use multiple software platforms, I think Chief really can do just about all of it.

You bet! Actually on closer inspection, I think that particular one is actually exactly the same as "Flux Architect"...at least the upper case letters anyway..

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