HumbleChief

https://help.dropbox.com/security/version-history-overview File version history The amount of time Dropbox stores previous versions of your files depends on the plan you have: Basic (free): 30 days Plus: 30 days Professional: 120 days Business (Standard, Advanced, Enterprise, or Education): 120 days

Dunno. Was surprised to see it but would not trust it as true backup software, but rather as a first resort. The feature is not that obvious and hidden in a 'more' type drop down menu. I did find plan file that are a month old in this version history so not sure what algorithm it uses to create those versions but could be a decent start when a file gets lost/corrupted...

I use DropBox too but don't consider it a 'BackUp' program. Carbonite, as a back up program, has saved my bacon those 2 times and the shear relief from not having to recreate a set of plans is awesome. Can't imagine being without a back up of some kind... There is a feature in DropBox that allows it to function close to a back up program and that's their 'Version History' feature. I over wrote a file the other day and went to that Version History and was able to retrieve it - nice. Would it save a corrupted Chief file? Dunno, don't want to find out.

Same here. Have had it for years, used it twice to recover corrupted plans. MORE than paid for itself with those 2 plan files...

Yeah, as I've said before, they took the most common of fill patterns off of the simple drop down menu and put them a couple clicks away, either in a library or a now 2 step process to get to those simple, most used fills. There are forum members who seem to either prefer or excuse the additional steps, I am NOT among them. It took many years to be able to edit the line styles so I wouldn't hold my breath.

NICE....

Exactly...

Thanks Mick, yeah that interior wall was in 3 sections which was producing that framing in the window and that siding was from the dummy 2nd floor. I remember now that I just ran out of brain steam and quit after I got the general look I wanted but thanks for getting me back on track and looking through different eyes.

Yeah will probably just use a simpler fascia/sub fascia combo to get that structure and look.

That was my first instinct but didn't see how I could have 2 x 10 rafter/joists and only a 1 1/2" fascia with starter board and the look I was after. It would end up like the section above. Did I miss a trick there? For some reason I can't think of now I didn't simply use a 1 1/2" sub fascia/fascia combo but may have over thunk it. So I made the room taller, dropped the framing in a ceiling plane, then placed the roof over that with only that 2 x T&G and a roof surface to create the 1 1/2" fascia. We'll see if the builder wants to go that route or plan 'B' which we don't have at this moment. I am presenting tomorrow but only for further refinement as the builder and I make a lot of design and structural decisions together so we'll begin that process tomorrow. The floaters are OK for that process but I could not for the life of me figure out where that 4 x came from that shows up in that window. Just wasn't any wall that it related to so will turn off framing, wall for that 3D views. ALWAYS stumped by something...

Wow, thanks Mick. Didn't think of a hole in the second floor roof so I removed it and replaced it with an interior ceiling plane, and in this case there is no original framing other that the 2 x T&G roofing over 4 x 8 beams so when cut back to the framing the ceiling plane allows that ceiling material to remain. The top floor was trickier because it does need framing but the framing needs to sit below the roof plane so it can match the existing eave overhang. I created a ceiling plane, framed it, placed it just under the roof plane which has the same 2 x T&G roofing so I get new framing for insulation and the slim line eave look as the existing. There were some really weird stray attic walls that gave the plan fits and if you can believe this the original plan had no 'windows'. Everything was a p-solid to create windows but no actual windows. That was a piece of work. Lots of other tricky areas around the stairs etc. and I'll present the current progress to the builder tomorrow and we'll wrap up the design. Thanks so much again for taking the time to play around. Check the current plan out and see what I came up with. Still details missing at least it represent the current design intent. SECOND_FLOOR_FRAMING_2.plan

That's the darndest thing. Line styles can be manged in the User Library, maybe if they are saved to the Library they can be accessed from another file? Super curious behavior.....

Do you have a picture of the sign? If so do what Eric suggests above. If not, find something close, and repeat...If you need actual 3D text, which is not what I'm reading then go with plan 'B'.

VERY funny....

Thinking about dropping one of these in but haven't decided on a Mother Board yet....

VERY interesting, thanks for clarifying that. If the shadow board is in the front and set to both eave and gable, zero offsets, it will wrap around that lower portion of the box and give you your double fascia there, if that's the look you're after?

Good luck, let us know how you solve it.

I must be missing something. I set the eave fascia to 10 13/16 and it closed up the box with no further adjustments or change to the shadow gable fascia look..

You also might have your gable fascia and shadow boards reversed. The 5 1/2" gable fascia is acting like a shadow board and your shadow board is behind it. Nice look actually and maybe what you want. Here's what it looks like with these settings.

Try setting your eave fascia to 10 13/16. Seems to work OK here, shadow boards and all.

Adjust your eave fascia and your eave sub fascia the same. You're seeing the difference between those two settings.

I don't think Xeon processors are a tough call at all. The ones I bought were inexpensive and were purchased for their 24 core RayTrace abilities at least 5 years ago. Today's Chief does not benefit at all as you've illustrated. Anyone else reading this might be tempted but they are not a good processor for Chief. Maybe the highest end most expensive Xeon? But who would even be tempted at the cost? Dunno.

This seems to be the case here. Must be missing something...

Trying to understand but I don't think I get that behavior here. Whichever way the plan is rotated that seems to be the way it gets sent to Layout. Are you saying it's inconsistent? Isn't it easier to rotate the plan in plan view, instead of the sheet? Might be missing something....