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5 minutes ago, MilitaryTVgirl said:

Hi All,

 

So I've been working on a kitchen remodel (mine) and decided to just draw the whole house. 

One day, I opened my plan, and saw a few weird symbols.

You can't click on them to bring up the symbol.

I had been trying a few different things (not sure what rabbit hole I went down) but apparently, I must have done something to create that. 

Anyone know what these are (and how to get rid of them)? 

Thank you.

 

Lauren

Chief Architect X11

They look like terrain elevations info
Terrain Elevation Data. Turn the layer off or delete it

Here is another file. The other one may not work

Harco.plan

Is there anyone that has a little time to help me to clean this up? This my first time attempting to do exterior stairs. I seem to be close but have a few issues I'm having problems with.

On top of whats circled in this picture I would like a ceiling instead of vaulted.

Harco.zip

I would imagine that if a fire separation is required that they would want it in the attic as well. I ques it would depend on if the requirement is just for the breezeway (corridor) to protect you to get out or for the possibility of a fire on one side reaching the other side.

5 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

This relationship can be adjusted as well...

 

That being said.  Sometimes it makes sense to go this route and sometimes it doesn't.  If you have a complex terrain that's been surveyed using sea level and your house is 734.52' above sea level, it would be silly to label all you sections and elevations as 734.52'+ (unless specifically required by your building department) and it would be very inefficient to adjust all your terrain information to subtract 734.52'.  Elevations are typically meant to communicate information about the house relative to itself and the house relative to the lot.  There's rarely any logical reason to communicate information about the referenced elevation datum in an elevation like that (unless you're in a flood plane).  

 

If the building department or the situation requires it, then that's one thing, but forcing terrain data to mesh with section view data for a lot of situations just isn't worth the time or effort.

Thank you, that really helps me.

3 minutes ago, builtright3 said:

 

Yes, I do see 100' FF on topo. drawings

Although, as a builder if the sections are saying 0" than I may want to match that.

23 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

 

A lot of plan checkers don't like to see negative numbers as they don't show well on black and white drawings.  It is old school but they sometimes insist on the subfloor being 100'.

 

Might be worth checking what the local requirements are.  Not sure what happens when there is more than 100' of fall on a lot though.  Then it gets even more confusing.

Yes, I do see 100' FF on topo. drawings

3 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

When you're defining the terrain, don't worry about too much about the building elevations at all.  Define your terrain using any reference datum you wish.  Maybe it's sea level, maybe it's the street, maybe its a stump where you're placing your transit, or maybe its a walkway.  Doesn't really matter.  The terrain elevation data has nothing whatsoever to do with the floor heights.  The relationship between the terrain elevation and floor elevation is just adjusted as necessary using that Subfloor Height Above Terrain setting.  That setting just adjust the 0" subufloor height relative to the 0" terrain elevation plane.  This means if you're using sea level as your elevation datum and your flat terrain is 55' above sea level, you would set the subfloor height above sea level to 55' + the thickness of your floor system + the thickness of your sill plate + the desired distance to grade (typically about 6").

That makes a lot of sense. Typically I use the subfloor of the main living space as Zero when I measure elevations of a property and make that consistent to all my subcontractors so we are all on the same page. So I can use negative and positive numbers from there depending if I'm above or below. I'm assuming the plan checker will except anything as long as it makes sense to them.

8 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

 

Yes set your terrain to "0" if you are using the sub floor as your reference.

Perfect! Thank you Chop!

I'm trying to understand terrain elevations because I'm getting more and more jobs where I have to show the correct slope on the elevations.

I noticed that "0" seems to be the finish floor height as far as what the terrain see's. In this it says subfloor but that's not what I get in my section when I measure it. I get top of finish floor.
Looking for clarification and some advice of where I should be having my "0" at? Im assuming subfloor, but I know usually plans I have seen in the past call it FF (Finish Floor) but the subfloor makes more sense because different rooms have different finishes such as wood, carpet, tile...

Any advise would be helpful
Thank You

Oop's, I does read from subfloor.
Still would like some advice on elevation starting point though. Should I start with the terrain to "0" and In the terrain specs box when I'm setting terrain elevations.

1 hour ago, robdyck said:

@builtright3

Ok, I can't get it with a setting as quickly as I hoped, and now I'm out of time! But if you zoom in close, really close, then drag the lower side edge of the attic wall to the left, until its neatly aligned, the lines will disappear and the stucco will blend.

Thank You!

I tried to move that in every direction except for that one that you did.
I guess this stuff just happens from time to time and we have to make it work. I wish there was a better explanation but I don't know what it would be.

2 hours ago, robdyck said:

If you post the plan, I'll take a look and tell you how I go about it.

New Plan 103, Seaman, Steven.plan

28 minutes ago, robdyck said:

If you post the plan, I'll take a look and tell you how I go about it.

Thank you I will post it soon. Have to run out for a few.

This is the kind of stuff that is very irritating to me!!

If anyone can help me to easily find the problem when this happens I will be forever grateful!
I can post the plan if needed but If I have some direction I would like to figure this out myself
Thank You

Or you could just make a poly line box or select the area and use the fill to make whatever scale grid you want.

Don't forget to select whether or not you want a background color or transparent.

4 minutes ago, lbuttery said:

you can  also have two plans 

one for the building - one for the site

This is what I was tying to say in my post but Lew did a better job of explaining it.
However, I never used the idea of building a symbol for the site plan. Not something that I'm familiar with but should probably learn about symbols in general and how hey work.

Thank you Lew

21 minutes ago, K-Lynn said:

The house originally set parallel to one street on a corner lot. The client's now want it angled on the lot. I have the site drawn including elevation data. If I need to keep the house square for the plans, do I rotate all the site data to show where it will set? This feels backwards but how else would I keep the site data correct in the exterior views? This is the first time I've done this in 3D. 

In these type of situations I will usually separate the site plan from the drawing. In other words; you have a plan file just for the site plan and another plan file for the floor plan, elevations, electrical, sections.....

Is there a way to export or transfer your "Cad Detail Management" list into another plan file that has already been started?
I believe I asked this question before and I cant find my post but it would have been for an earlier version anyway.

Any help would be appreciated, Thank You

10 hours ago, Chopsaw said:

I believe the landing gets it material properties from the attached stair so change that and the whole job should match.

 

The color is correct but the material type is not. The stairs do not show the 2x6 with the gap.
I also noticed that in the stair defaults there is no difference in materials between the interior and exterior stairs (out of the chief box) but they they do have two separate default settings.
Just an observation.

I always just work around these issues but it would help if Chief improved there stair and deck setup. I'm sure it's not easy to program or it would be better. Not a big deal to me at the present time but it may be to others. 

On 8/26/2020 at 11:48 AM, Bob_DeWitt_PE said:

I'm looking for a better way to input actual field measurements for doing as-built floor plans, locating doors, walls, windows, etc. I'm considering purchasing a Leica Disto X3 or X4.  Has anybody purchased a similar instrument for field input of distances? Troubles? Work Arounds?

 

Sincerely,

 

Bob DeWitt, PE

Hello Bob!
Just following up; Did you make a purchase? Your decision and input could help others.
Thank You!

I have the Disto E7500i and I love it! Great investment.
 

7 minutes ago, natmar2020 said:

HI

is it possible to display concrete pattern ( wall and slab foundation)on cross section elevation?

i search on chieftalk, i can't find...

Is there a way to customize those settings?

 

i use x10

This is a good question.
I know that you can get the patterns by using the auto fill button but I don't see any way of controlling the auto fill to do what you want it to do. I have been just putting the patterns in manually because I don't like the way auto fill works.

31 minutes ago, solver said:

Try turning off the Rooms layer.

That did it. Thank You!

Is there a way to take the finish floor from the framing section so we only see the sub-floor sheeting? You can do it in the camera few but not the sections as far as I can tell..
Thank You

21 minutes ago, Ridge_Runner said:

I noticed that layer name is in all caps. I get that quite often if I import an Autocad file, especially surveys.

I made that layer when I was going through one of the on line classes. They suggested that I capitalize all my custom layers so I know what I added. I decided I didn't like that and I just add a period to the front of the name so all my added layers are at the top of the list.