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Yea, I wonder about my sanity daily. Rene, wouldn't 70 rooms full of 3D objects bring the plan to a crawl. Besides this is due Monday.

OK I see the "Room" has a schedule command. that can be used for furniture. So maybe my idea to use symbols (like .5x.5x.5 p-solid) and my 2D blocks.

Looks like a Material list with "Furniture" will do but how to do a room by room material list? I have not used material list yet. Still looking..

I could create a simple object & make into a symbol & then assign my 2D block to it. The symbol does support additional information. Then perhaps a room material list or fixture list, just any report that can be dome room by room.

I have a large building with some 80+ rooms that need the equipment, furniture etc. displayed in plan view. The equipment does not need to be 3D. I was building 2D plan view of each in Autocad because it is much faster for me to create the blocks. I was going to import them into Chief as a block & fill the rooms. In Autocad I can add info to the blocks as attributes "smart text" and hidden descriptions. But Chief does not support extra info attached to the block. The goal is to have a room by room inventory list & call outs like the attached picture. If I used 3D objects I fear the plan would be overloaded (too slow) & besides I don't want to create or chase down all the 3D objects. Any suggestions as to a strategy for this task?

Nice solution.

Yes that works IF you plan ahead. BUT many times the note arrangements do not allow. Too bad you can't grab 6 rich text objects & replace the text with the macro. I too am using more & more text macros these days. Thanks for the input.

I have 70+ Rich Text in rooms with room info in them. So I want to select 6 and change the text, how can I do that?

Chief does a pretty go job with framing in 3D: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/wickman-3d-dae-framing-3d8c4084644f4f3f86c8d211c1b9861b With the skin on: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/wickman-3d-dae-060419-f26b9a4d84ea4e42847e8a7e57b1cf3b

FYI, On the first attempt, original plan, I placed the U stair in a large room and drug it into place. At that time the 3 stair components moved as a unit as if they were blocked together. I had to edit the landing to get the steps to move. Later I opened the same plan & the stair acted normally, each could be moved separately. I have no clue what caused this behavior.

Never used the U stair tool before but I was able to fit the stair into your plan. The odd thing about that stair is that you must adjust the Landing to fit (all nodes of the landing) and then you adjust the stair runs. Is that what you were having an issue with?

Thanks, fellas. I see that My new layer Walls Normal Exterior works in 3D view. You pay a penalty by losing windows & door which is ok in my case. I'm see railing wall & attic walls also need to be changed. Hopefully, attic walls will not get me into trouble. Out of time here but will continue later tonight.

I want to be able to show exterior walls only in some plan & 3D views. Do I need the main wall layer only to be different or will there be other issues with all the other wall related layers?

Thanks Steve, you have relieved a lot of stress on me.

Bob, Thank you so much for the video. It was very helpful. I apologize for all the weird walls & settings but I was trying everything I could to fix things. It seems that I would fix one problem & then create another, so around and around I went. Thanks to some great suggestions from all of you Forum folks I'm getting closer. Yes, the solid above the inner rooms was not painted because I was not sure it would work in the final plan. And yes there are loose ends but I'm close enough to get to the next plan submission once I add the structural elements. Once I've met my deadline I will return & review your video again. I think there is hope now.

Thank you both for your efforts. Not sure what walls were messed up on the wall outer layers but that should be all the same. Attached is my current attempt using walls in the attic & pony walls for the interior rooms. It is looking close in the 3D views but the pony walls in plan view make a mess of door openings. Also one window not cutting the wall. See below BTW I have about 16 hours in the Lobby alone. This has been a nightmare for me & the deadline for next submittals is approaching fast. It should not be this difficult. Note that the rooms (2) that have space in the lobby & in the outer space cannot be divided with invisible walls or it messes up the room area & labeling. They need to be one room (I think). Test_AB_060819.plan

Mark Thanks for the help, I'll have some time in about 4 hours to look at it.

Thanks My original version did not have a 2nd floor but I could not get that to work around the lobby. Most of the rooms will have a 9' drop ceiling with small attic, 24" slope bar joist with 10" insulation on top & TPO roofing. The Lobby has a 16' drop ceiling with same above it. The red wall pop outs have a separate roof with parapet walls. the rooms that protrude into the Lobby should have shelf ceilings. That is 9' drywall with 12 or 16" wood trusses. So remove the 2nd floor & put windows in attic walls if that will work.

Thanks for the input. That fixed one problem but caused another. That is the thing I've been struggling with. The problem(s) has exceeded my abilities to solve it.

Well the plan only is 14mb, thanks Here are the issues

This one is driving me nuts. I started with one story & then tried to use a 2nd story that is open to below. But nothing wants to cooperate. Look at the front exterior. The red pop out at the front wall should look similar to the red pop out on the right side. If you place a camera in the lobby you will see the walls are not building correctly. I used a Landing to try to make the shelf ceilings for the rooms on the front wall area. Any suggestions would be appreciated. The zip file is 35MB https://www.dropbox.com/s/ikylix9wiz590wd/Test 1.zip?dl=0

Thanks Perry, I suppose you have issues with pale colors not wanting to print dark enough?

That Preference setting to Grayscale is what I was missing. I see yellow in a gray shade now. And you don't have to turn color off in plan to send to layout, just turn color off in layout. Thanks Micheal.

No that didn't work.

So you print in color with the color turned off?