Saved Plan Views - how I use them

[para-CAD]

I know I'm probably overthinking this, but I have started modifying my general template in the following ways:

 

• For each SAVED PLAN VIEW I create a TEXT layer and a NOTES layer named and associated with that SAVED PLAN VIEW. As I navigate from one SAVED PLAN VIEW to another, I will already have TEXT that is specific for that plan view as well as NOTES. For some reason, I have struggled with TEXT sometimes appearing on different and multiple SAVED PLAN VIEW that I have to manually go and deal with.  I figure that if I isolate unique TEXT layers and NOTE layers to SAVED PLAN VIEWS, I will eliminate this.

 

• All my SAVED PLAN VIEWS are named after layout sheets so that when I start modeling I open up the layout for whatever project I'm working in and then double click in the view ports (layout boxes) and it opens to the proper SAVED PLAN VIEW so I can do work based on layout sheets.

 

• I've seen many people say that you can do all your work in the WORKING drawing layer but I have had issues with that for some reason, probably user inflicted because I'm that guy, so this is my workaround and I thought I would share it as a suggestion. At some point I will make a video so that what I've written is more easily understood.

 

Black and then white text is odd...and I don't always have projects that use all 40 sheets.  Unused are deleted.

 

Layout Pages

 

Saved Plan Views

Edited 23 hours ago by para-CAD
Had to edit when I was re-reading the post.

[Renerabbitt]

I'll share what is built in the Pro Plan.
If you have an SPV set to Use Any Floor

Then all you would need to do is duplicate the layout page that has this view sent to it:

open your layout box of the duplicated page and then scroll to 2nd floor:

Instead of duplicating so many SPV's for each possible floor

It simplifies things a great deal

[ValleyGuy]

2 hours ago, para-CAD said:

I know I'm probably overthinking this, but I have started modifying my general template in the following ways:

 

• For each SAVED PLAN VIEW I create a TEXT layer and a NOTES layer named and associated with that SAVED PLAN VIEW. As I navigate from one SAVED PLAN VIEW to another, I will already have TEXT that is specific for that plan view as well as NOTES. For some reason, I have struggled with TEXT sometimes appearing on different and multiple SAVED PLAN VIEW that I have to manually go and deal with.  I figure that if I isolate unique TEXT layers and NOTE layers to SAVED PLAN VIEWS, I will eliminate this.

 

• All my SAVED PLAN VIEWS are named after layout sheets so that when I start modeling I open up the layout for whatever project I'm working in and then double click in the view ports (layout boxes) and it opens to the proper SAVED PLAN VIEW so I can do work based on layout sheets.

 

 

 

 

This is very similar to how I've set mine up too. It works well for me. Text and CAD were the thorns for me. In addition to Text and Notes, I have CAD, Call Outs, and Dimensions for each saved plan view 'group'. I share the Text, CAD, Notes, Call Outs, and Dimension layers between the group of similar SPV's. Groups would be something like Roof Main Floor and Roof 2nd Floor - they both have their own separate layer sets and can toggle on / off as needed, but retain consistency sized Text, Line Weights, etc. No need to make text for both Roof SPV's, and no stray text from the working copy showing up on the SPV going to the layout because the working copy has its own. 

 

I tend to not Floor Up and Down with this system as the layer sets don't change with the up/dn arrows. I Use the Saved Plan View tool the navigate floor levels.

[Renerabbitt]

12 minutes ago, ValleyGuy said:

Floor Up and Down with this system as the layer sets don't change with the up/dn arrows

what would be a the reason for wanting to change layer sets from one floor to another?

 

[ValleyGuy]

16 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

what would be a the reason for wanting to change layer sets from one floor to another?

 

Reference display was always a fight, I like just setting it up and leaving it attached to a specific SPV / floor level - I only have to switch it on/off now. Sometimes items are hi-lighted in a different colour, different line colours to match materials better. I don't always like having the imported pictures follow me around from floor to floor. In a SPV going to the layout I will sometimes turn off the temporary dims and use a colour like green to measure things, I can use the same green dim on all three floors, but only have it show up on one floor in the layout if I need it. Probably not real deal breakers if I didn't set up the six different floor to floor layer sets, but nice little creature comforts for a little but of work. 

[para-CAD]

I never use the floor up or floor down tool. Every saved plan view goes to a specific floor automatically. I think I do this because I want granular control. I also do dimensions and CAD but I haven’t implemented it in this current template yet.
 

It was just a week ago that I got up the nerve to start using project management. I can only take so many of these exciting new changes at one time.

[SHCanada2]

I use the working layer set as more of a "most layers on" or fiddling around. Otherwise you run into the dimensions and text shown on all layout problem. I'd like to know how one could use the working plan view for both a site plan and a floor plan. My guess is people who use working plan view only use it for floor plans and then for a site plan they have their layout set to use a layerset instead of an spv

[ComputerMaster86]

I have my Chief Architect plan template set up to use separate plans views for different floor levels.  I have been doing this for a long while now, probably almost as long as I have been using plan views.  The only thing I have not done with this setup was use separate layer and annotation sets for different floor levels.  All floor levels reference the same layer set and annotation set for each plan view type (floor, electrical, plumbing, furniture, framing, etc.).  Each plan view type has its own layer and annotation set.  For me, separate plan views for different floor levels seems to offer flexibility and less issues when using reference display.   For example, my 2D post / footing symbols for post-framed buildings are usually placed on the main floor level.  Then for a 2nd story they are referenced using reference display with a dedicated layer set on the upper level.  I do need to think this all through again and see if plan views for different floor levels are truly necessary in my reference display work flow.

[ValleyGuy]

4 hours ago, ComputerMaster86 said:

  For example, my 2D post / footing symbols for post-framed buildings are usually placed on the main floor level.  Then for a 2nd story they are referenced using reference display with a dedicated layer set on the upper level.  I do need to think this all through again and see if plan views for different floor levels are truly necessary in my reference display work flow.

 

This is very similar and reminded me of when I do walk-out basements. Putting the 'basement' on the 1st level, and the main floor as the 2nd level messes with a few of the layer lines displayed (basement vs foundation), so it is also nice piece of mind to just assign the appropriate layer set per floor.

 

Now if Chief would just allow us to maintain the main level as 'absolute' and create negative floor levels to handle everything below the main level and above the foundation, then we would be on to something! But that is for a different thread.

 

7 hours ago, para-CAD said:

 

It was just a week ago that I got up the nerve to start using project management. I can only take so many of these exciting new changes at one time.

Hahaha, I hear you..... I had Apple Intel when X17 came out and couldn't update from X16. I now have Apple M-series and have yet to pull the trigger on X17..... soon though, before X18 comes out.

[para-CAD]

I will have the M4 Max in about 9 hours.  

I tried it out before but the price was a bit steep.  

I went refurb from apple and down spec'd it a bit.....we shall see.

 

 

 

 

[para-CAD]

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