Mozaik and CA X16 Premier - any level of integration possible?

[Breeze_Design]

A customer (contractor / cabinet maker) has just acquired a CNC machine and has asked if there is anything I can do to integrate my CA plans with their Mozaik software.  

I'm just starting to look into Mozaik and wondering if there is any compatability / import possible, even if it requires a separate software connector?

 

 

 

[JiAngelo]

Dxf import/export is possible.

[MarkMc]

36 minutes ago, JiAngelo said:

Dxf import/export is possible.

I was working with a client using Mozaik and as far as we could tell dxf would only import individual shapes. They did not find a way to import a chief plan, full 3D or even an individual cabinet. Do you know otherwise from experience? If so I'd like to pass it on to them.

[KevinWaldron]

If CA built cabinets with solids this would maybe be possible, but all we are getting is a skin/covering/representation. A face frame for instance is not 3/4"-5/8" thick when using the cabinets found within CA and not built or drawn to be reproduced with machine. CNC requires materials that have XYZ sizes as that is the way that it finds it's way in space. Laser work on the other hand typically requires only XY locations. So you could do a paper cut out of the cabinets with laser.

 

 

[JiAngelo]

Like @KevinWaldronsaid above, the CA cabinet libraries, including the manufacturer's provided libraries are not drawn with enough detail to be sent to a CNC machine.  CA Manufacturer's Libraries, like Aristokraft or Kraftmaid, don't even have enough information within them for a 1:1 connections with 2020 Kitchen design software, which is owned by the same company that owns Mozaik, Cyncly.com.  If you've ever used 2020, watch this demo and notice how similar they are in designing a layout.

 

 

Notice it is using a Mozaik door library, and look at all the options that library comes with, including blum hinges, handles, drawer glides, and even choosing drawer/tray construction to be box or dovetailed - the level of detail is insane compared to Chief's libraries having only Doors/Drawer fronts, finishes and wood species.  Look at the exploded parts view at 2 minutes.  At the 3:30 mark it starts taking the parts of a cabinet and optimizing the cuts and placement on 4x8 sheets of prefinished plywood (or particle board)  By 3:50 you know you need 21 sheets of plywood and at 4:00 they are showing you how you can manuever cabinet placement individually and then edit shapes on the fly to create predefined cutouts in a cabinet's sidewall. 

 

You should be able to export DXF's of your plans and elevations (for odd shaped cabinets like under stairs), recreate these in Mozaik using its stock library or one customized to how your friend intends to build his cabinets, This is the method we currently use for 2020 software pricing after configuring a CA kitchen in greater detail to match a manufacturer's available cabinetry options within each line.  For instance, some cabinet lines don't offer fluted columns or hood detailing that Kraftmaid has and we must work around this.  

 

I hope this helps.

[Doug_N]

3 hours ago, JiAngelo said:

Like @KevinWaldronsaid above, the CA cabinet libraries, including the manufacturer's provided libraries are not drawn with enough detail to be sent to a CNC machine.  CA Manufacturer's Libraries, like Aristokraft or Kraftmaid, don't even have enough information within them for a 1:1 connections with 2020 Kitchen design software, which is owned by the same company that owns Mozaik, Cyncly.com.  If you've ever used 2020, watch this demo and notice how similar they are in designing a layout.

 

 

Unfortunately your link requires a sign in.  So it doesn't seem to work for this forum, unless I am overlooking something.

[tundra_dweller]

21 minutes ago, Doug_N said:

Unfortunately your link requires a sign in.  So it doesn't seem to work for this forum, unless I am overlooking something.

Link works fine for me. You never know these days, could be because you're in Canada.

[Doug_N]

Does that mean I have to pay 25% more to see the video?  ;-)