Mintplanner Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I'm currently running 9.54 and POV Ray 3.5. I realize I am waaaaay behind the curve here, but I'm upgrading in March to Chief's Latest version Xwhaterver. Is the "stock" rendering tool good enough to impress your high dollar clients? Or do I need to utilize third-party software for this? I need to achieve results comparable to the attached image (because I'm currently paying to outsource this). I'm also building a new machine, so feel free to make recommendations for hardware that will enable me to achieve this. If third-party software is the answer, I'm open minded...nothing against Chief (I love you, man). TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcaffee Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 https://www.digitalstormonline.com/configurator.asp?id=1152444 Well, you asked. jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintplanner Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Any particular model I should consider there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcaffee Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 In all seriousness, it all depends on your toolset, skillset, and budget. Can X6 or X7 produce that quality, sure, why not. Chief Architect's ray tracer uses CPU rendering. Therefore, more CPU cores = better/faster images. (The above referenced system would do well with any CPU ray trace engine) However, there are other ray tracers in the world. CPU, GPU and hybrid using both. Do some research and try to match your skillset and budget to a new toolset. jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 The rendering and ray tracing in the newer versions are way ahead of the old POV stuff. What type of projects do you do? Attached is a render of a recent bath. 100% Chief X6. Also, look in the "Time to show us your Goodies" thread for other examples from other users. There are also some "other" rendering programs used for some of the posts so read carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 DG, that looks great. Really really nice. One suggestion, it's boring, try a different camera height, angle and maybe leave something out for our imagination. It's the composition my friend, try something different. But really nice use of materials, lights and fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Tia: Also check out some of the images posted on the Chief Architect web site as well as the Chief Architect Facebook page. Keep in mind that there may be some content posted that was done by Chief users who may not have mastered ray tracing composition. Setting up a scene and getting everything right (materials, lighting, angles, colors, Chief settings) takes some time to learn and although some Chief users have posted some really nice stuff, others who have posted images are/were still on a learning curve. Same applies to other software used for renderings/ray traces. Nice bathroom Dennis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcaffee Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Guys, he was talking about ray tracing a 15 story building and then compositing the model into either a background or into another 3D set. Big iron is what's called for if the OP plans on doing anything else that day other than RT. jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Jon - I noticed the commercial building but also that he was using 9.5 and POV. So that is why I referred to the improvements in the newer versions. IF he is doing commercial in 9.5 with POV then X6,7 will be a huge improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcaffee Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 DG, OP said he's outsourcing and wants to get back up to speed with X6/7. My recommendation was to get ALL his ducks in a row. Hardware, software, people, and policy--it's all connected. Going out and dropping 20K on a good 24 core CPU render workstation will have OP grumbling when he decides that Octane, Bunkspeed, or XXX GPU renderer is where the money's at; and in hindsight he should have spent his $$$ on dual Tesla K20s. Opie needs to know what he doesn't know in order to ask questions germane to the knowledge he seeks. Man, I'm starting to sound too much like DJP; all Zenny. I better end here, before I start quoting some old dead Greek guys. jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Jon - you know it really pays to read and comprehend the WHOLE post. I totally missed that he was outsourcing. DOH! I think I was a little taxed from just coming in from shoveling snow! ;o( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcaffee Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I hear ya Dennis. It wore me out watching the guy shovel the driveway and sidewalk. (Zero manual labor is one of the few benefits of a bad ticker). jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintplanner Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Thank you all! I'm mainly residential, but a client of mine is going commercial and he wants me to handle his marketing in house moving forward. I never spent much time rendering in the past...wasn't impressed with what came in the "box" so I farmed it out. I was just wondering if Chief's latest version relieves the need to outsource renderings. The quality I am seeking was comparable to the multi-story rendering I posted. I need to handle condo building facades. After reading your comments it seems it might be a matter of learning the "tweaks". Simultaneously, I'm planning to replace a desktop, so getting the right equipment to perform said renderings is part II of my querry. Much Obliged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why not download the trial version and play with the renderings and ray tracing. You can't save anything but you will see how much easier it is in the new version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintplanner Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 I wish I could download the latest trial version, but it won't run on this ole XP machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodCole Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Big iron is what's called for if the OP plans on doing anything else that day other than RT. GPU rendering can handle very large files, so long as the geometry can all be held in memory. Even multiple cards in one machine or the cloud for that matter. GPU raytracing is not available in Chief, this requires 3rd party programs. Blender and Cycles are free if you want to check it out. Lots of options available, but X7 is not to be overlooked either. GPU currenly means a cuda enabled card, which only Nvidia has right now. Just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintplanner Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Thanks for the tips...Writing that down right now! Does it matter if my new system operating system is equipped with 32 or 64 bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcaffee Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 64 all the way jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelgia Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I would love a monthly subscription based version of Chief that included "cloud rendering" like for Revit. Always up to date version of Chief with SSA of course. Am I alone with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Cloud storage would also be great, I think Cloud rendering is probably the future of all software NVidia already has something like that where you can run 8 Chiefs all at the same time and ray-trace in real time except they were using another program, it was sweet though. It a bit expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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