Window Hardware

[nikiley]

Hi All!

 

I am wondering if there is a way to add hardware to a window like sash locks or casement cranks. I did not see any options in the window specification dialog, but I wonder if I could create something to apply in the treatment tab that would work. Has anyone here experimented with something like that? 

 

[Tdgdesign]

Sorry to resurrect an old post but I have the same question as you and I can't believe that either 1) Chief doesn't allow this option or 2) they do but no one here was kind enough to help.... you....

[Renerabbitt]

11 minutes ago, Tdgdesign said:

Sorry to resurrect an old post but I have the same question as you and I can't believe that either 1) Chief doesn't allow this option or 2) they do but no one here was kind enough to help.... you....

You could make a custom symbol, but in the end, its faster to manually place these items as we don't have enough directly editable parameters in treatment/millwork/shutters etc. for all of the various configurations you may come up with

[aleohio]

I can’t believe this isn’t an option, even more than there not being a tilt-turn window type. ALL windows have locking mechanisms.

 

The vast majority of world’s windows are tilt-turn and they are starting to become more popular in North America, specially amongst people who can afford an independent architect and want a contemporary home.

[Renerabbitt]

4 minutes ago, aleohio said:

I can’t believe this isn’t an option, even more than there not being a tilt-turn window type. ALL windows have locking mechanisms.

 

The vast majority of world’s windows are tilt-turn and they are starting to become more popular in North America, specially amongst people who can afford an independent architect and want a contemporary home.

That is just a hopper window, different terminology thats all.. its there
You can place hardware by utilizing any number of different window treatments and offsets etc. can do it using shutters or window treatment or curtains etc. just have to know how to set offsets and bounding box for your hardware. Though it would be nice if it were just included
 

[aleohio]

The treatment options are curtains, blinds, exterior millwork above and bellow. If the window(s) have curtains and blinds then there is no way of tricking CA into adding a lock or grab. Plus, for the price of CA we shouldn’t have trick the software into adding something as standard/rudimentary as a lock or grab. Windows are programmatically only a different format of door — sliding door = single/double hung window, hinged = casement or awning, doorway = pass through… no one would think it acceptable for a door to not have a knob/grab and/or lock.

In one project, I used a sliding, glass panel door, elevated off the floor as a lobby reception window, so that I could put hardware on it. It looked like a window in both plan and 3D views.

[Renerabbitt]

10 minutes ago, aleohio said:

Plus, for the price of CA we shouldn’t have trick the software into adding something as standard/rudimentary as a lock or grab

agreed. But here we are  you can also use millwork above casing or below casing to trick it as well if that helps..still in agreement about it being a good feature request
 

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Windows are programmatically only a different format of door

You would think that certainly. Though Dermot says otherwise  
 

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I used a sliding, glass panel door, elevated off the floor as a lobby reception window, so that I could put hardware on it. It looked like a window in both plan and 3D views.

Nice trick. 
 

[Alaskan_Son]

13 hours ago, aleohio said:

I can’t believe this isn’t an option, even more than there not being a tilt-turn window type.

 

13 hours ago, Renerabbitt said:

That is just a hopper window, different terminology thats all.

 

Goodness no.  A tilt and turn window is a different thing entirely.  They are like a hopper and a casement had a baby...then that baby grew up, went off to college, and found a nice hinged door...

[Renerabbitt]

19 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

Goodness no.  A tilt and turn window is a different thing entirely.  They are like a hopper and a casement had a baby...then that baby grew up, went off to college, and found a nice hinged door...

lol...what does this look like in elevation? I assumed you would want the carrot of a hopper
 

[Alaskan_Son]

34 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

lol...what does this look like in elevation? I assumed you would want the carrot of a hopper
 

 

Never even thought about it till just now because I've personally never put them in a plan.  I think the proper way to draw though is like this:

 

And 3D is something like this:

 

[JKEdmo]

7 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

I think the proper way to draw though would be like this though:

That's correct.  They are typically inswing I believe.  I worked a while in Germany -- super common there.  Great windows.

[ValleyGuy]

I've used a few of them, not really all that popular due to price. They are exceptionally useful for egress below grade where there is minimal window well space on the outside. I've also put them in for pass-throughs from the kitchen to the patio eating bar on the outside of the wall - the full glass matches the rest of the house casements but doesn't knock everything off the bar. I can get them in a single side swing or both sides swinging (I think it is called French Tilt & Turn). There are even Tilt / Turn  and Tilt /Sliding Doors.