PMMully

Customer ceilings without exterior walls

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Hi all,

 

I have seen the kitchen remodel video that shows how to do a custom ceiling (add a vault) and that all made sense. However, in the example, it seems to pick up from core roof build based on the exterior walls as the baseline. In some simple kitchens and baths, I have been just using interior walls only (no exterior walls) as the ceiling was never required. I imagine I could make a new wall type that is labeled exterior so a roof can be generated. I had one plan recent where I had to capture an existing vaulted ceiling on a kitchen, and I could not find a way to use a customer ceiling plane to make it work.

 

I am not seeing the best practice out there just yet. Is the best practice to make exterior walls all the time if ceilings will be an issue.

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There really isn't any difference between interior and exterior walls.  You can use any wall type to enclose a room.  Chief will treat the perimeter walls of the plan as exterior.

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@Joe_Carrick thanks for point that out, I got it working just fine. One last question, how do I get a cross-section elevation to show custom ceiling planes like in this video below? I looked at display settings for the cross-section but nothing is jumping out.

 

https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/309/drawing-vaulted-and-curved-ceilings.html?playlist=96

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Automatic floors and ceilings are built based on rooms.  Rooms can be created by any wall type including exterior walls, interior walls, railings, or even invisible walls.  

 

I would recommend you use the wall types that best represent the real world situation.  For example, use either exterior or interior walls based on the actual floor plan and then use room dividers or invisible walls if you want to close off the space to create a room.

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@PMMully 

If you have "auto rebuild roofs" turned on before you start drawing walls...the program will automatically place a roof on your walls. Does not matter if you use exterior or interior...or even foundation walls. The program will place a roof on the "room".

 

I have this feature turned "on" in my template. I've set all the roof parameters in my template also. So...each time I start drawing I know I'm going to get a roof on my structure. 

It's fast and accurate...no need to worry about placing a roof baseline in the wrong location. 

 

For complex floor plans...the auto rebuild roof tool can be a pain, so...you'll have to decide whether or not to use it depending on what you are working on. 

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2 hours ago, PMMully said:

how do I get a cross-section elevation to show custom ceiling planes like in this video below? I looked at display settings for the cross-section but nothing is jumping out.

 

It's almost always helpful to have a couple of images so we see what you see. Attaching a simple plan file demonstrating the problem is also helpful.

 

Do you also have a flat ceiling in the room? That's the default and does not go away just because you have drawn you own ceiling plane.

 

 

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@solver here is what I am seeing, I can not see the roof planes in the cross-section like the video. The video is on the right. The title of the window in the video says cross section on it.

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Your camera seems to be outside the building.

 

The video shows a Backclipped Cross Section and you can see the cameras location in the plan.

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@solver  Wow, a one-second fix.  Yes, the camera was outside. It works the same for either cross-section view, once the camera is in the right place. The video threw me cause nothing was inside.  Thanks, my friend!!!

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