GeneDavis Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Where is the code reference found in NY Residential (or IBC) that stipulates this? All I can find is that the gathering floor is to be sloped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kMoquin Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 A change in elevation in not required in the IRC. (Can't speak for NY codes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 The only garage elevation related code I know of is with regard to ignition sources within 18" of the garage floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCSD Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 The State of NY has not amended that code section. https://up.codes/viewer/new_york/irc-2015/chapter/3/building-planning#R309 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Flood plane area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_NY61 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Same for NJ IRC 2018 R309.1 Floor surface Garage floor surfaces shall be of approved noncombustible material. The area of floor used for parking of automobiles or other vehicles shall be sloped to facilitate the movement of liquids to a drain or toward the main vehicle entry doorway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL88 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Heres your answer. See snip attached. Also link to NY State residrntial bldng code pdf > https://www.dos.ny.gov/DCEA/pdf/pdf/2020 Residential Code of New York State.pdfNy Code is mostly plagurization of IBC which states that all grades must be a minimum 2% slope away from structures. So 2% slope at your garage entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARMELHILL Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Me and a friend also, always thought there was a requirement for a 4" step down into a garage to prevent CO2 creeping into living space. We tried to find it one day and couldn't. It might have been in the older NYS Code from "pre" international code days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCSD Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 2:07 PM, BILL88 said: Heres your answer. See snip attached. Also link to NY State residrntial bldng code pdf > https://www.dos.ny.gov/DCEA/pdf/pdf/2020 Residential Code of New York State.pdfNy Code is mostly plagurization of IBC which states that all grades must be a minimum 2% slope away from structures. So 2% slope at your garage entry. Bill, I respectfully disagree with you, you cannot apply IBC codes to a structure that is governed by the IRC. R101.2 specifically states that 1 and 2 family dwellings shall be constructed under the IRC. R309.1 doesn't provide a minimum slope. R401.3 provides a minimum slope of grade away from the structure (6" within the first 10'), but that doesn't apply to garage floors. There is also no code section in the IRC that states there must be a 4" elevation drop in a garage, it does not exist. You also cannot apply a code that was in effect years ago, you can only apply the code that is in effect at the time the permit is issued. You have to be very careful when interpreting codes, you can't take requirements from one section and apply it to another without a code path. You should also make sure that there aren't any state amendments of a particular code section, which could greatly alter requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Don’t forget that there are commonly plumbing, gas/fuel, and mechanical codes that also govern many of these things and that almost always override anything you might find in the general building code. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCSD Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 IRC requirements can be overruled by manufacturer's installation instructions, you are 100% correct. R102.4 Referenced codes and standards. The codes and standards referenced in this code shall be considered part of the requirements of this code to the prescribed extent of each such reference and as further regulated in Sections R102.4.1 and R102.4.2. Exception: Where enforcement of a code provision would violate the conditions of the listing of the equipment or appliance, the conditions of the listing and manufacturer’s instructions shall apply. R102.4.1 Conflicts. Where conflicts occur between provisions of this code and referenced codes and standards, the provisions of this code shall apply. R102.4.2 Provisions in referenced codes and standards. Where the extent of the reference to a referenced code or standard includes subject matter that is within the scope of this code, the provisions of this code, as applicable, shall take precedence over the provisions in the referenced code or standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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