BFogarty Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 In the window settings, there is only options for a single, double and triple casement windows.....I'm in need of a quad. The problem with taking 4 singles and mulling them, they are in a 2x10 wall (yes, weird), so the mulled sections look like mini tunnels....not good. I changed the spacing between mulled to 0", this still left a 1.5" mulled area. The attached image shows the undesired result. The second image shows what I'm looking for, except in a Tripple Casement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Bob, probably help if you could post the plan, although one of the Guru's will probably answer without it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFogarty Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Was going to post the plan, but I figured this was a slam dunk either way....attached is the plan 23 Pleasant Family Room As-Built.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javatom Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Mull them together and change the mulled depth. See attached picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, BFogarty said: I changed the spacing between mulled to 0", this still left a 1.5" mulled area. You just haven't forced the Windows together Bob... bump one frame against the next...... and see if the Mull looks better.... M. 23 Pleasant Family Room_MHD.plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The best solution IMO really depends on what you need to draw them up for. Accurate section? Accurate elevations? Simple 3D? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: You just haven't forced the Windows together Bob... bump one frame against the next...... and see if the Mull looks better.... M. 23 Pleasant Family Room_MHD.plan I think he's trying to get rid of those deep mullions Mick. Look at how Eric did his. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, javatom said: Mull them together and change the mulled depth. See attached picture. In order to make this work, the frame and inset also have to be adjusted. This is one of the key setting though for sure. It's just not the only necessary setting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said: In order to make this work, the frame and inset also have to be adjusted. Yes I didn't play with that, I just looked at the 1.5" apart issue which I didn't think should be happening if the Separation was 0".... wasn't sure what look he was after for the rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javatom Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I believe he wants 2x10 walls. I'm pretty sure that Erics system will work if it is a 2x4 wall with other layers that pad it out to 10" thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFogarty Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, solver said: Her is one I did some time ago. 3 individual windows. Note how each window is defined prior to mulling. See the frame sizing and check for any other obvious changes to the defaults. mc1.plan I think I'm getting the idea, just haven't applied it to mine yet. Although it's a mulled unit, the middle windows need to be adjusted accordingly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, javatom said: I believe he wants 2x10 walls. I'm pretty sure that Erics system will work if it is a 2x4 wall with other layers that pad it out to 10" thick. No reason to pad anything, and you actually don't even need to mull anything. The key settings are: Sash Depth and inset Frame Depth and Inset Casing Overlap (needs to be negative) The biggest downsides are that the window doesn't actually get a framed wrap using this method so you might want to downsize your windows to account for this. Pick your poison I suppose. The alternatives take a lot longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFogarty Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Got it. I think it was a combo of pushing them together and adjusting the frame sizes. Although I may have only had to do one of the two....lol Thanks for the help!! 23 Pleasant Family Room As-Built.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFogarty Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said: No reason to pad anything, and you actually don't even need to mull anything. The key settings are: Sash Depth and inset Frame Depth and Inset Casing Overlap (needs to be negative) The biggest downsides are that the window doesn't actually get a framed wrap using this method so you might want to downsize your windows to account for this. Pick your poison I suppose. The alternatives take a lot longer. Of the three things you mentioned, I adjusted the frame depth. Visually it looks fine, on the plan view it does show a line in between each window. I bet if I adjust the Overlap it'll get rid of it. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javatom Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Making the frame inset a negative number appears to push the window outside the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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