Dormer over porch

[pappaloo 0]

Hi,

I am trying to get a gable dormer over a porch as shown in the attached screenshot. I also have a slight change in pitch as well over the porch.

With the change in pitch, the auto floating dormer doesn't work, so I know I need to manually draw it.

 

When I try and manually draw the dormer, the exterior walls won't show up above the porch on the 2nd floor. They just disappear right away. It's slightly buggy I feel that I can get them to show up sometimes, but once I attempt to cover it with a roof plane, they will again disappear. If I draw it within the interior structure, I can do it simply as shown in the video online, but that is not what I want.

 

https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/9923/focus-manual-dormers.html?playlist=95

 

Any tips or tricks? 

[solver 1412]

Here is a quickly drawn model.

 

[pappaloo 0]

Thanks Eric, can you share the plan file please?

[pappaloo 0]

This is what I get when I draw it...

 

I created the building on the first floor, add a porch by creating half wall, then made them invisible.

 

I then build roof planes by setting a full gable on the left/right walls.

 

I then created a 2nd story derived from the first (left settings default), ignoring the option to move the roof up as well.

 

Created a few exterior walls on the 2nd story, then when I manually create a roof plane, the walls disappear. 

What am I doing wrong here?

Thanks.

[chief58 65]

you have to break the roof around the walls you put in so that they show through, in other words your roof is covering your walls

[Kbird1 765]

I think Ray is right you need to cut a roof Hole around your 2nd storey Walls ... remember in CA.... Roofs Control Wall Heights....

[solver 1412]

You can use a roof hole if your walls go to the floor/ceiling below, or mark them Roof Cuts Wall At Bottom and they will sit on top.

 

These could go in the attic too, just depends what the specifics are.

 

 

 

[VisualDandD 109]

If the dormer goes across the two different pitches, you dont use hole in roof.   Just use break tool on each pitch and pull back the appropriate section.

[glennw 890]

Why wouldn't you use auto roofs on a house like that and cut your time down by about half?

Auto roofs are perfect for a simple roof like that, and once you have the auto roofs set up properly, if you make any changes to the plan, the roof is rebuilt correctly.

[pappaloo 0]

Got it, thanks. Unfortunately my plan's roof is too complex for auto roofs (for other reasons than this dormer), however drawing this manually now works perfect.

 

[glennw 890]

2 hours ago, pappaloo said:

Got it, thanks. Unfortunately my plan's roof is too complex for auto roofs (for other reasons than this dormer),

 

Are you 100% sure about this?