Larry_Sweeney

They say pictures are worth a 1000 words................... I tried deleting walls and rebuilding them in the areas of the "wild" framing. Any ideas? Thanks for looking. Chandler 08142018B.zip

Michael................Thanks for looking checking out this problem. You're getting the same results that I did. Since posting the original thread I've submitted it to tech support. They believe it's possibility a bug also. They said they are going to give it a further review.

I have a wall that is intersected by roofs on both sides. The Upper wall labeled "A" is shown aligned with wall "B", but I want to show the "A's" Lower wall. When I show the lower wall in plan view it is now misalignment with wall "B" and will not snap into the correct position. Also a look at the exterior is showing the lower wall out of alignment. Does anyone get the same result? Am I missing something? I've noticed when I open this simple plan for the first time I might have to move the roofs to wall "A" a couple of times to get wall "A" to recognize them for a Upper/Lower wall situation. I can't remember if I've ever had this problem with the Upper and Lower walls not aligning. I'm not sure if it's because of the roofs intersecting with the wall at different levels on opposite sides or what-------------BUG? I thought I would throw IT out in a thread before sending it to tech support. WALL.zip

I'm not sure why to use the "OPEN BELOW" room above, but it works. Can you explain why? I had multiple wall types so the siding would be showing correctly on all areas of the exposed exterior wall surfaces above the roofs on both sides of that wall. I had to change your "Attic Wall" to have siding on both sides above the roofs. Everything looks good now. As we see here with my problem (which is partly self-imposed I'm sure), the program can be used most of the time to fix the problem, but it takes a VERY skilled person understanding the different aspects to figure it out. Thank you so much for your time, knowledge and advice. Have a great day.

That's definitely thinking outside of the box! Thank you.

1. The wall area in question is circled at the left on the first floor of plan. I'm after 1/2" sheetrock on the interior walls and Horz. V-groove siding on all the exterior areas. I think most of the problem arises with the roofs intersecting the wall at different levels on opposite sides of the wall and the sloped area on the second floor level. I tried dividing the wall into three areas (the wing-siding on both sides, wall with window-upper wall siding on both sides, lower wall cut by roof, siding on one side sheetrock on other, and third area- upper wall, siding on both sides, lower wall cut by roof, sheetrock on both sides. There is also a wall to "finish out the area" on the 2nd floor level. I've tried all different combinations and I'm getting nowhere. I'm either missing making a mountain out of a mole hill or I'm working the program too hard. 2. Is this a BUG? Wall "A" has a lower and upper wall. With the upper wall aligned with the "wing wall" it is attached to I click on wall "A" to show the lower wall. When I do that the lower wall jumps out of alignment with the "wing wall" by 3/4". No matter how careful I try to place the lower wall "A" it will not align with the wing wall. If I go back to showing the upper "A" wall it is aligned. The lower "A" should be set at 6'10" instead of the red circled 6'9 1/4". This same "jumping" occurs when I try to show the lower wall in plan view where the window is located in the first "problem wall" I talked about. I've been working on this remodel off and on for sometime and it seems to have had all sorts of issues. I have submitted these issues to tech support, but I thought I would also check here with you all. As always your advice and time are much appreciated. CHANDLER 08082018.zip

Mick......................Thanks for that "tid bit" of info! IF I did know that at one time I forgot about it. "They" say that's part of getting old-------------or should I say older. Have a great day.

Joe..............This is one of the few times I totally disagree with what you say. It's CA's job to "try" and give us a program that is able to give us what we can do in the "real" world. Then let US figure out how to do it correctly. A lot of CA's problem with certain parts of their program is that they try to do all the thinking for us with all the "auto" features. I suppose to the inexperienced person the auto features is a plus, but for me, I need "options". I will have to admit though the auto framing is much help in that it gives you a "starting point" to work from. As for using a Tudor "half arch". Where do I find this? There is a Tudor arch, where you can make the radius "0", then set the height difference from one side to the other. How do you use the Tudor arch feature and only clip the corner of a door? Thanks again for your respected time and advice. It's always appreciated.

Robert..............Thanks for the "work around". You would think CA could set the door "shape" just like they do with the windows. Have a great day.

I could not find anything in "Search" on this subject. I would like to clip top corner of a door to same angle of the roof. Is this possible? I don't see a way in the door's "Arch" dbx. section. I know you can do this with windows. Thanks in advance for your time and advice.

Lew is most correct. The eave fascia should either be the same or a foot or "more" above the main roof. I would also make the pitch on the "turret" at least twice the pitch of the main roof. Try that and see if changing the pitch is much more pleasing to the eye. Because the eave will be much above the top of the windows you could add more architectural detail in that area to help make the "turret" stand out. Of course this is my opinion only. You can take it with a grain of salt.

Eric.......................Thanks for letting me know this is an old bug. I've never had this occur for me before that I can remember. I will report it again. They say the squeaky wheel gets greased . Have a great day.

Charles...........................Yes, I got those same results earlier. This "work around" is fair and might be my best option, but like Eric, I think this is a bug and I'll report it. Thanks for your input. Also thanks for your input on the "deck plank" problem. I was also able to get similar results by changing the plank and gaps size. I also think this is a bug and I'll have to report it. Have a great day

1. I have an area of the deck edge where the deck planks do not go to the outside of the framing (DECK 1 attachment). If I move the distance of the deck closer or farther away from the wall the deck is attached to the gap will change, but it will not be correct. I've never seen this occur before. Once again, any suggestions? Just to let it be known, this is a plan moved up from X9. 2. I also have part of a deck that is under a 2nd. floor overhang (DECK 2 attachment). The underside of the overhang is showing a deck ceiling even though in the deck dbx. I have ceiling and roof unchecked. I've tried everything I can think of to try and get rid of this ceiling. I know it is a deck ceiling because when I change the material for the deck ceiling the ceiling I'm referring to changes. Any suggestions will be much appreciated for either problem. Thanks in advance for your time and knowledge. Remodel 8A.zip

Eric..............I made sure both sides were at the same elevation. You can see my results in the attachment. Did you try using my profile that is in the plan? I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I can't ever remember having this sort of problem with the shadow boards or frieze. It's getting late. I'll have to look at this with "fresh coffee" in the morning.

I edited the attachment so it was larger and easier to see. Perry and Mick.................Sorry I didn't get right back to you more quickly. I got a call and had to step out. I do appreciate your advice. Perry .............. I don't have "auto framing" on, but I did build the framing. I just have that layer turned off. Mick .........I understand that that the shadow board builds from the fascia line back, but I have my overhang set for 12". If it is set for 12" (roof material out at the 12" mark) then why is my shadow board back at the wall. When I change the horizontal offset for the shadow board it does not move. I did make the frieze the same molding as the shadow board molding but it would not show. I take it you did not get those results----------correct?

I tried to add a soffit detail as a shadow board, but I'm getting strange results (attachment). I have my overhang set to 12 ", but the shadow board rest up against the exterior wall and will not move no matter what my horizontal setting is set to. My roofing material is placed correctly ,but the framing isn't correct either. In the process of trying to "trouble shoot" the problem I attempted to use the soffit profile as a frieze molding. My frieze is shown in the roofing dbx. ,but it doesn't show in camera view or plan view with all the correct layers turned on. Am I having an "old timers brain fart" or is there something really going on here? This project was brought up from an earlier version if that has anything to do with it. I'm just getting it started (my own place) and I'm trying many unusual things in getting the "right look" house.zip

Dermot..............That was the problem. I have no idea how that got changed. Maybe today will be okay after all. Have a great day!

I must be losing it. I opened up my file this morning and I noticed all my doors (and windows) were colored grey. I went to my door layer and they were marked to be black. I tried to change them to another color but they would not change. What stupid thing am I missing for the reason for this. The default color is set for black. It's going to be a long day. ----------- Maybe retirement is the answer!

Mark............This model seems to be quite challenging in many ways. I find that it's better to work on it first thing in the morning rather than late at night. As of right now, between you and Chop, I'm on to the next challenge. I'm sure I'll be back with another issue before this project is finished. Maybe I shouldn't make them so hard. Thanks for taking time and giving advice----------much appreciated. Have a great day!

Well then, CHOP it is! Yes, I still get that warning when I open the plan and I have no idea what or where the problem is. I've have had many "issues" with building this model and have done many a work around which, I think, are starting to form their own issues now. As I move along in this model I'll probably be back here asking for advice and input. Once again I thank you for your time and knowledge. Have a great day.

Chopsaw..............Thanks so much for your time, advice and patience. It's very much appreciated. So is Chopsaw what you go by or do you have a first name? Mark....................You were on the right path. Thanks for your time and advice. Have a great day!

Chopsaw............I think I got it. At the point where the railing wall and the normal wall meets I put in a wall break. From the break to the main house I then defined a new railing wall with siding on only one side. I then placed the normal wall next to the new defined railing wall and placed a window (double wall option "not through") in the normal wall. Looks okay and it doesn't seem to matter if it's set to furred or frame through. I still have the problem with the soffit material above the railing wall area though (shown in exterior view of first attachment in this thread). The material showing is the drywall ceiling and not the soffit material. I think this problem is a CA bug and not a "setting" problem.

There are many items not finished in this model---- TO BE WORKED OUT. The cantilever will have post under it. As I mentioned earlier, when I set the wall to frame through the railing wall disappears. Does this happen for you?

Chopsaw.............I keep getting this message when I try to install a window in the "normal wall". There is nothing locked. I have since tried locking the railing wall. but the window will still not install in the normal wall.