GeneDavis

Always work from top to bottom

Watching some Chief training vids, I see all tabbed on right window. How does one stack these with tabs?

I paid a shop $90 to remove virus and malware because I was getting such slow loads and view changes. This, the day before leaving for the winter home 1500 miles south. No improvement at all, in fact worse, as my preferred browser Chrome won't work, and Win 10 cannot perform updates (which it couldn't before either.) So a shop here says the hard drive is faulty, and I'll take his advice and have him do a new one, solid state. Is the hard drive working each tome you do a view change? Each time you upen an object for spec?

Antics with semantics. Chief doesn't really build the truss. It just fits a trussy looking thing into whatever roof-over-ceiling envelope you, the Chief user, has created. And then after you have "built" it, Chief offers you ways to edit it, i.e., end, drop gable, attic, etc. It is up to you, the user, to create the proper envelope for a truss we're all calling a cantilevered truss, and doing that is straightforward and easy. There are no tools or options in Chief to one-step that process of generating roof planes that are right for cantilevered trusses, and me, the guy who could care less about them, did the request in Suggestions, since the guys who are moaning about this did not, and came in here repeatedly to say stuff that, to some, made no sense. You're welcome, Michael_. And you too, BnC.

Your iron baluster symbol should just be a single object. I have a Model 94 Winchester in my library as a baluster symbol. Just one. The spacing is set in the stairs dialog. I've another, a pair of boards with a cutout in each, always used as the pair that make up the symbol, and the symbol is set at the right orientation.

Post the symbol

I just don't understand your phrase "we always used pre-calculated heights for this heel height and the end height of the truss was always the same." Because I have run this by my go-to guy at the truss plant and he thinks I am speaking Greek. Explain this in detail and how it works for an 8-pitch roof with a 24 inch overhang, compared to a 6-pitch roof with a 30 inch overhang. And I'm sorry, but someone named BnC, without a picture, cannot be identified as man or woman. You might want to edit you signature a little, and include in it some details about your hardware setup. It sounds like you want Chief to have a feature in the roof-build dialog that works like this: If TRUSSES is selected, it would open up a one-of-two-choice checkboxes, and one path MUST be defined. 1. Specify heel height (in which case the soffit top is not locked to wall plate height). or 2. Specify CANTILEVERED WITH PLATE-HEIGHT SOFFIT (in which case the heel height is a function of pitch, overhang, sheathing thickness, and fascia thickness.) And if THAT is what you are after, go ahead and do a Suggestion in the Suggestion subforum.

Looks as if I gotta spend $2k to get a machine with enough video speed to do those quick renders. I'm not happy.

The thread's author, BnCKelley, did not succinctly write his or her problem, nor was it better or more clearly posed in the two followup posts he made. Go back and read them carefully. Do it twice. I did and wrote up the details of the suggestion, but I've made it clear it should be posted in Suggestions by the person with the need, in this case, ol' BnC herself. My take on it it is the 4th reply to Michael's in the S forum.

Making the symbol is the easy part? Rope lighting? Bulb spacing? Lumens per? Mounting? And additional lightinng? I want realism.

And read carefully what the OP, fluent in MITEK truss design software but not yet up to speed in Chief is saying about the roof edge geometry. It's really just a version of how soffit z-position is controlled by subfascia size, and how the heel height RESULTS FROM that spec. And re-read it to understand how it differs from Chief's code, which adds into the assembly, sheathing thickness and fascia thickness.

So who's gonna write up the suggestion for the enhancement that automates the section-view-measure-then-cut-and-paste-to-move-roof-height tapdance? I'm waiting. If you want a feature, you gotta write it up over there in Suggestions.

If one sincerely needs Chief to generate roofs that meet this truss arrangement soffit-formed-by-truss-chord detail, there will be a check box in the structural page of the BUILD ROOF dialog that would say, "locate roof with subfascia bottom elevation at wall height elevation," and then there, voila, you have your feature. Automatic. Wow. So go ahead and write the suggestion and put it on the Suggestion subforum. Until then, you'll have to slug it out with existing tools, first generate a roof, frame it so as to place the subfacia, take a section view, draw a rectangular polyline to gage the height you need to move the roof so that subfascia bottom equals plate height, cut the temp dimension of the box height to the clipboard, go to the roof in a view so so as to select and move it, paste in the move distance, and THERE, you have your roof ready to build your perfect cantilevered truss. I should have timed it. Really quickly done. In the three views here, I show how the heel height can change for an overhang that has the same pitch and overhang distance, but what has been varied is the roof sheathing thickness, the fascia thickness, and the addition of a shadowboard. I set the fraction to 64ths for emphasis. When you copy that move distance, you are at five decimal places in inches. For a trussed job, my roof edge section will dimension heel height, overhang, and roof pitch, and it will call out the thicknesses of roof sheathing, fascia, shadowboard if there, and will call out size of subfascia. They all play a role in the geometry.

If every job one trussed had same-pitched roofs, same length overhangs, and same-spec fascia and subfascia, then one could build roofs right for trussing with bottom chords framing soffits just right every time. Just control it in the build roof dialog as stated above. The OP stated that the spec was to have the bottom elevation of subfascia match precisely the plate elevation of wall, and to do that involves either a trig or graphical solution. Wasn't said this way, but as "bottom of overhang even with walls." I think I understood that correctly. Easily done with Chief in a 2D section view, to arrive at the right z position for the roof plane. But change anything, pitch, roof sheathing thickness, added shadowboard, subfascia size, overhang, and you're back to needing a new solution, BEFORE you generate a truss.

It's static. I use the material list as a way to refine the 3D model (i.e., the plan) so as to have the most accurate representation of how the building is built with real available-to-purchase materials as possible. I want my final issue of the material list to be as close to an actual buy list as possible. Use the "find in plan" feature to go to and edit every single element of the job, from the rebar in the footings, to the knobs on the closet doors, if those elements don't match your intent.

Close plan file. If over 25 Mb then zip it. If under, no zip needed. Attach it to to your next post. We'll get 'em mulled.

Display in 2D or 3D? In 2D plan view, you can control how pony walls display.

Try Sketchfab for 3D Framing Overviews. Very easy interface.

'Twould be nice if you could select an exterior wall and have it expand OUT, but no, not the way Chief works. This ain't no four-wall plan. Lotta turns and more. Suggest something that will make this trouble-free, please.

Done in Sketchup, symbol is a fixture

Just get busy with wall definition and floor finish specs. And ceiling, roof. Framing layers on for the 3D.

Why not cloud storage? Dropbox is pretty seamless?

Late for me to get back but I want to give a big thanks to Michael, for the excellent tutorial, which taught me not just some truss stuff, but some editing moves I did not know. When the vid was first posted I was at my seasonal camp in the north woods, with a slow satellite connection, and it prevented me from going back to the video rapidly after pausing it to go and make the moves in my plan. Well, I winterized the place two mornings ago, locked up for the season, drove back to civilization, and am now where I've got high speed, and was able to watch it in full. The model is now done.

Define "glass size." Every window manufacturer has charts for the glazing area of their windows, but a double hung with unit size W x H from Andersen can have a different glazing area from Marvin for the same double hung type of same size W x H. I think you are using glass to say what most would call unit.

Yes, Michael, I watched the video, which showed how to do a big rectangular notch in a truss where a window is desired, but as you explain in the exercise, you cannot work the under-window part to get the truss to have a hole in it. My truss is a hybrid with a hole. Hybrid in that its upper half is an endwall drop-gable type, with a window hole, and its lower half is a workhorse of a girder, picking up a 3-foot wide tributary area of roof load, and carrying along its one side the load of all the monotruss jacks hanging onto it. Chief would have to give us "pony-truss" modeling plus framing for windows. See the CAD sketch attached. The truss guy has all the specs and will produce his drawings when this one comes up in the queue.