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P deserves a point for that one.

I already did a vid. on this somewhere. If you can't find it, maybe someone will do a new fresh video.

That my friend is what we are looking for at the workshop. Let's keep a list of this stuff when we go to the UGM. We will corner Doug Park in a dark alley, and explain to him our needs, we might even need to get Scott Harris.

I sure wish you had helped him out before all of these miscreants posted their posts. Come to think of it, if this is a real person, I bet he would of seen the humor in all of the posts. It seems that we all have to be so politically correct these days that nobody has a sense of humor...... it is so easy for somebody to make a post questioning the political correctness of anything being said in this day and age. Come on DJP, lighten up, you know that everybody on this forum would bend over backwards helping this guy out if we understood what he was asking. I had better shut up for the rest of the day.

Larry, I did not watch the entire video, I watched it until 1:07. This is such a great vid that you did because it gives me the opportunity to point out the logic of CA. You dropped the ceiling over the porch, which is the bottom of the deck above. If you drop the ceiling of the porch, what do you expect the deck above to do? It will drop down because it's height is defined by the ceiling below. Why would you drop the ceiling of the porch? The ceiling of the porch is the underside of the deck. If you want the top of deck to stay in place, well, create a new ceiling/soffit ceiling under the deck at the porch. I think you were trying to control the wall height by controlling the ceiling height.... wrong wrong wrong. Anyway, see you at the workshop. After the workshop, some of this stuff might start to make sense to you.

Wrong, they should be connected. Finished ceiling is dependent on rough ceiling. You may be referring to a dropped soffit ceiling which is independent of the rough ceiling. Based upon what you said, you do not understand how CA is working..... I do not mean to be a smart a**, so please forgive me, maybe I have messed around with this stuff so much that it is actually making sense to my pea sized brain. So, I would recommend that anybody who is a bit confused..... and I include myself in these numbers..... may want to join in or at least listen in on the STRUCTURAL WORKSHOP....... https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/6090-structural-workshop-pre-ugm-thursday-aug-6th-300-pm-pst/

Glenn is the best, He knows more than me, he knows more than the CA Staff, in fact he knows more stuff than my wife, ........... but you must take into consideration how this will appear in plan view. Do you need to dimension the columns? How will the columns appear in plan view? Are your going to have half columns at the exterior wall of the house? How often are you going to use that particular setback of column from the edge of porch slab? How often are you going to use that style of column? Is the height of the column base going to change from project to project? How is the beam supporting the room going to appear in plan view. Bottom line, I advocate a less auto approach for the reasons I just referenced.

Just to goof around, I wonder what would happen if we took his initial post, and using Google Translate, we were to turn that initial post into Russian, and then into German, and then French, back to German, throw in a Japanese translation and then back to English. What do you think it would say? I am with The Curmudgeon, we are here to learn as efficiently as possible, throw in some interpretation requirements and I am out of here, too much time involved.

My day was probably not as long as yours and I do not know what he is asking.

If you look closely, the far mirror reflects the near mirror, but the near mirror does not reflect the far mirror. This is telling me that the near mirror does not have a mirror material on it or the near mirror is one of those mystery objects where a mirror material does not work on it.

I was wondering if this was a special situation when first posted ....... P. and Bill had a good explanation for the issue, but, so I guess you tested their theory and that is not the issue. Post the two different mirrors in a small plan and post. I have experienced a situation where even though the mirror has the correct material.... because it is a solid or a slab or it's a tuesday, or you are wearing your hair down instead of in a bun, the mirror will not reflect.

Dennis, I received some help from headquarters. Do this..... if you find that you have suddenly lost your deck planking, open the room and verify FLOOR UNDER THIS ROOM is checked. I think there is a small bug in the program that will uncheck FLOOR UNDER THIS ROOM under certain circumstances. Not really a big deal if you know to double check that FLOOR UNDER THIS ROOM is checked. I am embarrassed that I had not thought of checking this, but now I know.

This is a very powerful statement and a method I used for awhile. Have gotten away from it recently, but there were some definite advantages to this method and I am not sure if there is a downside........ Assuming foundations are manually built.EDIT: I may not of been clear...... For a slab foundation I was not using FLOOR SUPPLIED ROOM BELOW, yet I still built the mono slab on the level below yet it was not defined as providing floor for room above. So now I am not so sure as to what Bill Emery was referring to.

Bill, don't you need a concrete stem wall between the garage slab and the raised wood floor foundation?

Hey guys, I'm going to Bluesapalooza this weekend, so I will shoot for next weekend. Anybody who wants to listen in is welcome. Glenn, I will email you tomorrow for some good times for you. Maybe afternoon our time which will be ..........errrrrrrr... Tomorrow morning for you, 17 hours ahead I think. I would rather not spend a lot of time modeling a situation, Instead, if we all have some ready built models we can discuss, we should get much more out of the session. Perry, please help with some models with over stack roof framing and examples of where we need better control of eaves and fascias. It would be super if we could reach some kind of a consensus in regards to what structural modeling issues we have. I know we all have issues with stairs, but I want to stay away from that in this workshop.

I do not mean to be a smart a**, but I think there has been some misinformation in this thread, and if there is not any misinformation in this thread, I need to go back to school on this. I will say that I am a bit disappointed in the fact there are some experienced users who do not understand how CA is working...... and if it I who is wrong and they are correct, then it is me who is all screwed up. Some of you guys, including me, are going to the UGM in about a month, we are expected to understand how CA is now working and how we may be able to help CA improve the program. If we go in there and spend our time trying to get us on the same page, this will be a missed opportunity for us. I suggest that we get together for a GTM and discuss issues such as this BEFORE WE GO TO IDAHO. If we can't agree on how to build a model, how can we assist CA. One last thing before I pull my foot out of my mouth....... one of the most important things for me is for CA to be able to build a STRUCTURAL MODEL correctly so I get clear PLAN VIEWS and clear SECTION CUTS. I believe Perry and I are in agreement in some areas that need addressing including ROOF FRAMING and FOUNDATION BUILDING. It would be great if we did have a GTM to identify areas that we can discuss with the CA folks. It will be less confusing to them if we can come in as a block of users who agree on some basic improvements that should be implemented. Let me know if you guys are interested, but as far as I am concerned, this is some pretty basic stuff that does not always work perfectly.

I do not understand the question. If you have watched any of my foundation vids, you will understand what I am talking about.

Okay, so Robert does not have all of the answers. Give up on doing it auto, faster to do it manually. Think of it this way.... build the concrete stem walls for the raised floor and then come back and put in your slab footings...... THAT ARE INDEPENDENT OF THE STEM WALLS. I have found the most success in keeping the two separate. The slab should be defined by it's own footings and not necessarily reliant on the concrete stem walls. Again, I have done countless vids on this type of a thing.

Yeah, check out what Robert is showing.

Larry, you do not have the floor structure defined in many if not all of your rooms. You can fight it or you can learn to define the floor structures. What you are doing in my mind is very typical for CA and I have very few problems with it. I have done many many many videos on foundations and slabs that you might want to review.

I think the reason the model is slow is because of your balusters at the railing. Temporarily change them to simple squares instead of the spiral style.

Holy Kamoly mi amigo, thanks.

.......Or porch and change floor structure........ what is very important here is to take a section and note how the walls frame. Do the walls frame to the upper level or to the stepped down balcony/deck/porch.

Nice call Alan.

Did anybody else take a look at this? Dennis and I did a quick GTM and we are both perplexed.