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Chief room area calculations are NOT Correct
Joe_Carrick replied to William's topic in General Q & A
Garage areas have never been correctly reported to the exterior wall surface. The Standard area for Garages is only to the Centerline of the Walls. The Closet area and the Living Room Area are properly reported and when added together equal the "Living Area". -
I can only surmise that you intended them to be parallel to the Property Lines. If that's the case, use the parallel tool to correct them. Otherwise, like Glenn said..... It's just the way they are.
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Curt, I don't have any problems on my office system - upgraded from Windows 7 I do have the problem on my home system - upgraded from Windows 8.1 Why FF doesn't access the forum on my home system but IE does is a mystery.
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Dan, I will try that when I get home. I just installed Windows 10 on that system last night. Firefox could access the forum before that. Interestingly I can access the forum on my office system (also on Windows 10) using Firefox. Something strange is going on.
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Kirk, I tried clearing the cache. Didn't do any good. I can't find a place to Add the Security Exception.
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Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to forums.chiefarchitect.com. Peer's certificate has an invalid signature. (Error code: sec_error_bad_signature) The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. Please update signature so Firefox can access the Forum
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Stop (Close that Window) and retry. Maybe reboot first. That message should only be there about 10 seconds and then you should be asked to approve the license agreement.
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Perry, I have 3 systems - Office, Laptop, Home My wife has 2 systems - Office Laptop and Home Laptop There are several other systems at our office. So far I've upgraded to Windows 10 on my Office System and my wife's Home Laptop. Both Systems gave me some problems. My Office System wouldn't let me install the new NVidea driver until I deleted the Adapter using the Device Manager. Then it was a PITB getting the monitors correctly identified and everything sized to my liking. IOW, non of my prior settings were saved. My wife's Home Laptop was just real slow until I disabled Windows Defender. We use Avast, so Defender is not something I want running anyway.
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FWIW, I had to uninstall my NVidea Adapter before I could get the updated driver "10 353.62" to install properly on my office system. It was a PITB but now it's working fine.
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I installed on my office system this afternoon. Tried to install the NVidea upgrade so I could access the GPU. It failed so at present all I have is a low res video driver on a small monitor. Not good. My Laptop will have to wait for the rollout schedule to catch up.
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Mine is evidently downloading. I have a "Get Windows 10" window on my system that just says "Working on it..." which has been about an hour. I have no idea how long it's going to take. But I'm still able to use the system.
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Click on the Windows icon (lower right on the taskbar)
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Another little trick: If you want a lowered ceiling without changing anything else..... Use a Ceiling Plane - even though it's in the Build Roof Menu, it can be used on lower floors.
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My bet is that whoever started this thread is ROFL.
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Haven't any of you figured out that thread this is SPAM? Look at the user name "CALIBZ". That's the extension of Chief's symbol Libraries when exported. Chief Architect LIBrary Zipped.
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Richard, IMO it's more complicated than that. it sort of works like that now but not totally. I agree with others who say that it should work form the bottom up since that's how things are actually built. The problem currently is that you might have a multi-story building and want different floor heights in different areas of the floors. This represents some unique problems: For example: 1st Floor area 1 - Floor Elevation 0.00 - Ceiling 108.00 area 2 - Floor Elevation 24.00 - Ceiling 120.00 2nd Floor area 3 (doesn't match area 1 or 2) - Floor Elevation 136.00 - Ceiling 96.00 area 4 (doesn't match area 1 or 2) - Floor Elevation 154.00 - Ceiling 96.00 There are conflicts that may be present depending on Structure, etc. Without a 3D View to see what's happening it's very difficult to tell where those conflict are. In some cases it might be necessary for the Structure to be changed or additional "Room Dividers" to be created in order to make everything work the way you want it. Generally I find that working in 3D Floor Overviews without any Foundation or Roof allows me to get the results I want. But I have to follow the "Top Down" approach to get it right. Working in just a Plan and Section doesn't provide enough feedback.
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Only if you send the Elevation as an Image can you rotate the Layout Box.
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See, Chief does have some capabilities - even if they are not immediately intuitive.
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Johnny, 1. Select the Object you want to cut 2. Select the Solid Subtraction Tool on the Edit Toolbar 3. Select the Object to be subtracted. Both objects have to be the same object type (either 2 Primitive Solids or 2 Polyline Solids). There are 3 Tools: Addition --- combines 2 Solids into 1 Subraction --- removes the volume of the 2nd from the 1st, leaving only the remnant(s) of the 1st. Intersection --- creates a surface where the 2 meet, deleting both objects I like to do these operations using a Plan and 2 Elevations or a Perspective View. Positioning the Objects is the key.
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Todd, There isn't an "Automatic" function. However, you can edit the individual windows by selecting the "wall" and then hitting the tab key and opening the dbx.
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As I said before, deleter the Foundation, make room adjustments and rebuild the Foundation. - or - Turn on "Auto Rebuild Foundation" If that's not ON you will not get the Foundation to adjust to the new Floor Values and consequently the problems you are having. If you want Chief to make all these adjustments automatically then you have to have "REBUILD ON". Same for Roofs. The rule is that what's above and below control unless you tell Chief to "Auto Rebuild"
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Larry, Try this: Delete all Roof Planes and the Foundation Change the Room Heights in the Structure dbx Rebuild the Roof. Rebuild the Foundation Did all the Rooms change or did things work the way you wanted them to?
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One thing I would like to clarify. In the Structure dbx, if you change the Ceiling Height you are essentially changing the plate heights. Scott indicated that it would not move the Roof up or down and I said it would. Both statements have some validity. If "Auto Rebuild Roofs" is on the Roof will move up or down. If that setting is off the roof won't be changed - but the plate heights will change and depending on what is above (another floor for example) with rooms that may not span more than one room below the results can be confusing. This is probably the one reason that it's critical to work from the top down when setting these values. It is also a good reason to get all the rooms set before building the foundation and the roof. Those tools rely on the rooms, but once the foundation and roof have been built it can be difficult to get everything to work when things are changed. For example, I usually have an "Attic Floor" that encompasses the entire boundary of the floor below. If I subsequently change the ceiling height of a room below that floor, my "Attic Floor" is moved up or down accordingly and all other rooms are effected. I am not sure if this was true in X5 or X6 but it's definitely true in X7. To avoid this, I simply break up the "Attic Floor" with room dividers that match the places where I want to change the ceiling or floor heights. It can be tricky to control. I understand Larry's confusion.
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Scott, I think you need to go back to school. My testing backs up what I said and I think before you make corrections you should test. Then if you really disagree call me and we can do a GTM to verify - and if you were correct I would modify what I said. 1. Changing the Ceiling Height moves the Roof up or Down so that the plate heights are consistent. 2. I stand by this 3. I inadvertently typed "Ceiling Structure" instead of "Ceiling Finish" Now please don't be an a**. All you needed to do was ask if I really meant to say "Finish" instead of "Structure"
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Larry, Here's my understanding of this issue: 1. You have a Roof Structure above and if you change the "Ceiling Height" in the dbx it moves the entire Roof Structure up or down accordingly and thereby modifies all rooms. 2. OTOH, if you modify the "Ceiling Finish" definition in one room to add an "Air Gap" and "2x4 Framing" then the Finish Ceiling will move down without effecting the other Rooms. 3. In some cases you can modify the Ceiling Structure but that only works with a Floor above. Changing the Ceiling Finish seems to be the best alternative. It would seem to me that changing the "Ceiling Height" should at least give the option to modify the "Ceiling Finish" definition. But that's not the way it works at this time.