Alaskan_Son

You can still use the same trick without that tool. You just have to place the wall and window into a blank plan, delete the wall surfaces using the Delete Surface tool, and then click on Tools>Symbol>Convert To Symbol.

I guess the window symbol wouldn't actually be a very good solution in this particular case, but they do have some benefits sometimes...although very few now that we have the Inserts Into Wall Option. Come to think of it, maybe there aren't any benefits anymore. That might take more thought than I'm willing to give it right now. I thought the window symbol option for example used to obey the rendering style Opaque Window Glass setting, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.

A window symbol is one good way and has a few benefits for sure, but i think what I would personally do instead is this...

My thoughts exactly. There's nothing new or unusual about this at all. Its super common in all sorts of software too.

Just a little tidbit here, but I actually just use the Save Plan View button for pretty much everything... - To save a plan view in its current state I just click as usual - To “save as“, I simply switch the plan due to ”None” and then click the tool - To create a new plan view, I switch to “None”, change other settings as necessary, and then click the tool. The only thing that you can’t really do without using the project browser or one of the other tools is is open a new plan view in its own tab.

Sounds like you're just trying to argue for the sake of arguing my friend, but here's the closest proof I can come up with. Build Wall Framing for your one test wall, turn on framing layers, and Reflect. What do you have? Reflected wall with framing right? Reverse Layers. What do you have? Reversed wall with framing right? Use Transform/Replicate and Reflect about Object Center. What do you have? Same thing right? The wall is reversed but framing remains. Now use Transform Replicate and Create a single copy with or without reflecting. Yup...that just happened. Seriously though, you can do the same thing with auto framing turned on or not and with retain wall framing checked or not to see further proof, and watch what happens with your wall detail numbers during those framing tests too. Its pretty clear that Chief is being perfectly consistent with its behaviors in this regard. Again, the only difference is that we don't have Copy/Paste In Place available for walls...presumably because it would be a useless and confusing tool.

It does make a copy. The copy just overrides the original. All I'm saying is that I'm not experiencing any semblance of inconsistency. Copy/reflect works in all scenarios without any caveats. Chief isn't disabling any tools on my end to be smart. The only missing tool is Copy/Paste In Place because 2 walls cannot occupy the same space...i.e. the tool would be utterly useless and wouldn't even do anything.

Not so sure about that... ...obviously there's no real reason to create a copy since the wall will override the original and therby make the copy moot, but my point is that it does work...at least on my end.

It does on my computer. Maybe its a Mac thing.

With X11 there are some other options as well. Don't have time to make a video, but here's a quick example plan using only parametric objects (walls, windows, and doors)...no custom symbols necessary... Corner door.plan The main keys are to: Use a second set of walls Offset the doors Just check out my settings and see if you can figger it out.

Select the Room Click Make Room Polyline Cut Open Blank Plan Paste Switch to All Off Layer set and turn only the layer on that your new polyline lives on. Export>Export Current View and select Export Only Displayed Layers

Copy/Paste provides Point To Point Move and Reflect About in the Edit sub-menu which essentially makes it work exactly like Copy/Paste In Place followed by one of those 2 tools from the normal Edit toolbar. If however, you want to use Copy/Paste In Place followed by something other than those 2 tools (Center Object for example), what I do is Copy, Center Object, and then Paste Hold Position.

I personally almost never send more than one plan view to layout. Once I send the first one, I simply select it, Copy it, and then Paste Hold Position to the next page. I then change the Plan View, Floor, Layer Set, etc. to whatever I want it to be for that layout box using the Open Object button or the Layout Box Layers button. I then repeat for the next page. Easy peasy and no alignment necessary.

Manual labels or custom macros.

No. I don't ascribe to that method. This is a little different. It's just not inviting the opportunity for someone to say no. Truth is that many times, no one cares...it's only when you offer the option that it starts to matter. Scenario 1 DAD: "Hey kids we're going to McDonalds." KIDS: "YAY!!! We love you daddy!!" Scenario 2 DAD: "Hey kids, do you want to go to McDonald's or Disneyland?" ... I think you can probably see where this is going.

I find that sometimes asking is the thing that triggers the requirement. I typically just provide the electronic signature and wait for them to ask for something else.

You're welcome. It's not actually something you can reasonably do inside Chief. I use other software for that.

I thought at first a 1x6 at 12" OC was the same as a simple 6" hatch, but then it occurred to me that its just a little different. Anyway, you can hire me to make custom patterns at any time, but you can have this first one on the house. Nothing fancy and it's a relatively small and simple sampling , but it should do what you need... 1x6x12 B&B.calibz

Agree 110%

Sometimes its even the little things. Dragging out a marquee for example ramps my GPU usage up to 40%.

1.) Open Standard Camera View = 13 seconds. 2.) Drag Wall Surface up = 18 seconds. 3.) Undo Drag Wall Surface up = 15 seconds. 4.) Build Roof Planes = 28 seconds.

Try taking a front elevation view of the BBQ model and do a CAD Detail From View and you'll see how much memory can come into play too.

Try switching to line drawing rendering technique and spinning the model around a bit. My GPU reaches as high as 80% usage.

20 seconds at 4.6 GHz

Try it again. This time make sure all layers are displayed and unlocked, and use the CAD Block trick I mentioned above... ...to downsize the whole thing before trying to further inspect and clean it all up.