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Thanks for the Heads Up Jim.... M.

If there is a one method that works in all situations, I haven't found it either but hey I've only been playing with Chief for 15 yrs or so still learning..... M.

Oh no problem at all Brett, I was the only one around on Sat. ( working ) is all, the more the merrier especially with quirkiness like this...... sometimes Dormer go easy, sometimes not for seemingly no reason. The Pic above appears to be the same problem in the 1st post though. Mick.

Sorry Gene wasn't here yest. but it appears to me from the Pic you have let the Roof planes cut into the walls again and not notched the Roof Planes around the walls. the wall on the Left it now occurs to me does not need Roof cuts walls set as you want it down to the Floor , I am not sure about the right hand side though?

Not sure why this one is so hard? did you try cutting and pasting that cheek wall up on to the attic level ? then dragging left?, it might destroy the exterior wall again though. M.

maybe i wasn't clear enough? i meant shape the room wall and drag it left under the cheek wall. M.

I would normally shot a elevation camera at the wall and then in Elevation Shape the wall as needed under the Cheek wall.... if that fails the old standby 3D Solid also in elevation? * it appears you have no floor structure in that small attic area in the pic above. M.

That's a bit confusing.... it works well with FF but doesn't ? M.

Check out the Plan File above..... M.

It's huge for a small plan like this, I removed the Stairs and Toilets, beds etc and purged Materials , which didn't seem to help much , so I did a Plan File Only backup in Chief and it lost 70mbs ! so you were right I guess , some hidden textures........ drop this plan back in the same folder as the original plan and it should find the original textures no problem, though 3 were missing for me in 3D Views. Just copy paste the furniture etc back in from the other plan if you are just going to use this File now.... Gene 1.zipPlan File Mick.

Part 1 of the Issue is the Cheek Walls being on the Attic level so the Roof Cut Wall setting is not working properly , at least that is why I think that didn't work... Part 2 is you didn't close the back of the Dormer with an invisible wall which help to control the Cheek wall Length , which is why you see holes in the Valley, the Cheek walls are just too long. but it's all fixed up, I am not sure what you have in here as I can't see this plan being 71mbs normally ? M.

If you "fight" chief's auto snap , and try doing it manually it often doesn't work quite right ..... I forgot to mention earlier nobody can get your plan as you haven't set the permissions to everyone so they can download it

just confirming Link works here in Edge and Firefox.... M.

In X15 , in the Project Browser, simple Right Click the closest SPV to what you'd like, and choose Duplicate.... You may , depending on how you use Chief, also need to make a dedicated Default Set, Layerset etc ( see pic 2) as well, so that the duplicated Settings and Layers are different, and thus not overwrite the Layers etc from the duplicated SPV. Give the new Default set a corresponding name to the new SPV LAST (3) .

Probably how I'd do it, to make one of the Fiber Optics Light Panels ..... so you have the "suggestion" without the need to deal with Light Data and shadows etc. M.

Haven't opened the plan Gene , but it appears to me your Roof planes are destroying the Cheek walls. If the cheek walls do not goto the floor inside ? Try this... in the wall's Roof Tab , set Roof Cuts wall at bottom - and Chief will adjust the roof hole for you. If the Cheek walls do goto the floor you will need to alter the Roof Planes (RP) manually - pull them back a Foot all the way around, let them rebuild, then grab an edge and slowly approach the wall, the RP will "sense" the wall before to actually get there, watch carefully and you should see the RP "reach out" for the wall at about 3"-6", Take you finger OFF the button now and just let Chief auto snap the RP to the wall for you. Mick.

Also one of the Few Places I use Rich Text still so I can use various Text elements Like Bold, underline, Upper Case, Lower case etc all in one Text block, it just more convenient in this case but there are only usually a few occurences so Copy paste if needed is still quick enough. M.

This is the Method I also use nowadays too, Text ....and Text styles can do almost everything Rich Text can do, it does take a bit of work to make the text styles but those you can build over time as needed in your Templates. Mick.

To be honest I was surprised there were no other answers too, but the whys and why nots are not covered well in the help file as far as I know, I checked the KB and there is nothing there either. M.

Perhaps because by default Deck Rooms don't have Ceilings ( or Roofs) ......so no material displayed? M.

Bit of a big topic Ron, with lots of opinions I am sure, but for me I don't use Rich Text except in specifics cases nowadays, as Normal Text with Text Styles is much more configurable on the fly, just using the Layer the Text is on, change it there from 6" high to 4.5 " and it ALL changes throughout the Plan. M.

If it continues I would suggest you move your Chief Data Folder out of the Cloud, Dropbox and OneDrive can have side effects due to the constant live updating/backing up of Files. These days I have switched to Google Drive for collaborating with Clients. I moved my Chief Data folder in Windows 11 as Documents is automatically backed up by OneDrive, in Win11 OneDrive is insidious and seems to have taken over my computer it feels like.....especially if you also use Office 365 , it seems these days you aren't allowed to use the computer as you wish and M$ has had to dumbed things down to the lowest common denominator. things to consider.... https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-03155/sharing-projects-in-a-work-environment-that-is-utilizing-cloud-network-services.html https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-03090/moving-library-content-to-the-cloud-or-other-custom-location.html https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00911/message-cannot-find-or-open-the-file-to-save-your-plan.html https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-03132/resolving-unexpected-behavior-on-a-windows-pc-by-redirecting-the-data-folder.html

Personally, no but I have not moved full production to X16 myself yet, I was waiting for the next update at least. M.

Try a little Forum searching perhaps, as I seem to remember Michael (Alaskan_Son) doing a library or symbol or something for these a couple of years ago maybe? M.

Chief has several KB articles that may help with Cloud Services , personally I moved my Chief Data Folder out of the Cloud due to slowness and other issue even with a 1GB ISP package. The other issue maybe your "Partner" has the file open on his end too? M