HumbleChief

Drove me crazy for half an hour!

Here's a pretty sad attempt at creating those poly line solids to create part of the coffer.

If the section is cut through the entire 3D solid it cannot be edited and only shows cross sections lines. If the section is only cut through a part of the 3D solid it is editable. Who knew? (Well usually everyone but me )

Usually missing something but when I create a 3D solid in a section view, it shows in 3D and shows in the section view but somehow then cannot be edited? I could have sworn I've done this in the past and been able to edit the shapes in section view but user error is always a possibility. Thanks for any assistance. Apologies as I see that I am using too many terms in the discussion. These are 3D solids and I'm calling them 3D polylines and who knows what my brain comes up with while speaking but they are 3D solids. Thanks 233817106_3DSOLIDS.plan

Yes, but he creates the tray ceiling in 3D using a tool I couldn't seem to locate . Very glad it was fixed for you and I learned a couple things as well.

Not sure when/if I'll play with RTRT as it really doesn't fit my business model very well as I haven't RayTraced for years. Nice work with TM on the posted images.

...and you're trying to talk me in to a new 3070?

Hey Rene, I feel your frustration but wonder if this is the best place to express it or, hopefully find a resolution? I think your good intentions are running up against forum software limits that the software simply wasn't designed to handle. Your abilities and helpful content are just too much for it to deal with as you've illustrated. At the risk of being genuinely unhelpful I wonder if a chat with the good folks at Chief might clear things up as your content and helpful posts clearly benefit Chief. Keep us posted if you don't mind.

Nah, super old laptop.

Yup, wrecked my back and can't sit at my desk and can't walk so much either so not the best use case scenario. I sit in a recliner with my laptop and get nothing done lol.

PERFECT Charles. Found it (see previous post) but took my sweet time. THANK YOU.

All righty then. I am working on a lap top and the tools show up in different places and I completely missed the "Make Tray Ceiling In Room" tool on the bottom tool bar which I NEVER use on my desk top. Simply never looked down there for the tool staring me n the face. DOH! It even shows up on right in the screen shot I posted, wow. THANK YOU ALL for your patience as I earn my HumbleChief nickname..

Yeah I can fake it for sure but was simply trying to duplicate Eric's work flow in his video above but I just noticed that I don't have and can't find the same icon he's using to create a tray ceiling in 3D. I have the Tray Ceiling Polyline Tool which is (now) obviously meant to draw a poly line in plan view and SHOULD be grayed out in a 3D view. I'm off to search for the 3D tray ceiling tool.

Thanks Ryan and apologies for not being clearer in my posts above but the problem is as soon as I go to full camera 3D view the tray ceiling button is grayed out so I cannot create a tray ceiling to 'inset into ceiling.'

Thanks Charles, appreciate your reply. No locked layers, room selected, tray ceiling icon grayed out. SO frustrating...

I'm not sure if this is in response to my comment above but if it is I can't even get a tray ceiling to explode. I can get one in plan view but not in 3D view as Eric is showing. Can you get the tray ceiling tool to work in 3D using the attached plan above as Eric was able to do? Thanks

I was going to file a bug report but when duplicating Eric's steps, I select the room and the tray ceiling icon is grayed out. Thought it might be my template plan so I used the res. template from Chief with the same behavior. Can't duplicate Eric's steps above as the tray ceiling icon is grayed out. What am I missing? Thanks tray ceiling 3.plan

Doesn't that seem like a straight up bug? If it weren't for the smart guys like Eric, how would a user ever anticipate or expect that behavior and the solution?

NICE Eric!

The gap seems to fill without that ceiling plane masquerading as a trey ceiling. Did you try using Chief's trey ceiling tools in that area? EDIT: Any kind of trey ceiling seems to keep that end wall from filling. If you draw another room with room dividers in that trey ceiling area then raise that ceiling height it seems to work. As always it's best for the smart guys to add their input. It also might necessary to redefine your walls and build framing as currently the walls look like they are a single 4" layer of a paint/material color? Here's a drop box link to the X14 plan file. Hope it helps. https://www.dropbox.com/s/w10r5ckhfvzmpyd/tray ceiling 2.plan?dl=0

Can we assume you got this fixed? If so how? Thanks

post the plan...

...and/or make sure the 'Walls, invisible' layer is turned on in your camera view.

What happens if you use interior walls then make them invisible instead if room dividers? Here's what I get. The crappy one is room dividers and the OK one is interior walls, then invisible. Have no idea why.

Thanks