HumbleChief

Wow, Robert that is really good news. Glad you all got it figured out.

Thanks Michael, watched the video like 4 times as well as others but if you notice that older version has no field for stem wall height which probably adds some flexibility but also some confusion for us duller knives in the drawer.

Thank you and probably true as long as the stem wall height is also set to the same value as the floor height - something I keep forgetting thinking that the floor height is what sets the floor height.

THANK YOU DAVID! I forgot the stem wall height setting - it was set to 0. DOH.

Been working on this split entry for hours and tried to follow a Chief video but cannot seem to get this split entry correct. Any help GREATLY appreciated. Couldn't make the file any smaller so here's a DB link. https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ybs8re5bbwodix/SPLIT ENTRY.plan?dl=0

Here's a thread that shows a VERY slow plan file. Forgot I had this problem. Turned out (in this specific case only) Auto framing roof and floor on a fairly complex model was the culprit.

Not intending to be trite in any way and can't know your business model of course but can you post a plan that's giving the problems? DropBox, OneDrive or other means so others might take a look?

This seems to be a pretty serious clue to the problem.

Yeah, pretty easy to do manually. I was a bit fooled thinking it would be an automatic operation, as Chief attempts most things, but it's nice to have the framing correct for over built roofs, or for cal-fill roofs as we call them here in er..cal.

I have a template plan file brought over from X13 (maybe even X12?) that I start every new plan from. Never technically 're-use' a plan.

Nice work Gene. Glad you got it figured out.

Have not experienced any 'slowness' here.

Can you increase the depth of the landing? Auto adjust works too.

Thanks Ryan, seems to work OK with just a roof plane but the roof plane also seems like it needs to be manually pulled down from its auto build configuration, then over built. I have a feeling the OP (from his plan at least) was expecting the over build to be an auto build function, like I did when I first tried it. Wonder what others have learned.

Apologies but I don't understand the comment? Is there a way to 'over frame' automatically? Knowing Chief that would not be an unreasonable expectation but I can't seem to find the method? Also could not find a 'framing group' for roofs, only for floor and ceilings. Curious have you tried the over frame tool?

The video from Chief skips a step if you've already auto built and auto framed all the roof planes. The underlying roof plane needs to be extended under the new over framed roof planes, then it frames properly. The video doesn't show the framing for the other roof planes but that just needs framing per the build framing tool. There might be a way to auto frame everything including the over frame and perhaps the smart guys will chime in but I couldn't find it.

Got it and your point was well taken either way.

Even though garages don't typically have floor joists I see what you're saying and I missed it. We can change floor joist sizing and material from the floor dbx but not spacing. Need the bearing lines/walls and a joist direction line as you and others have pointed out.

The OP was asking how to change O.C. spacing for floor framing. Seems much easier and more flexible to change that data in the floor structure of the room. No bearing lines or bearing walls needed. Just sayin'

This is an interesting idea. I wonder if the master site plan could have very simple floor plan outlines locating each unit and each referenced plan point to point moved into their respective locations then referenced?

Glenn would you use bearing lines/bearing walls versus 'rooms'? Rooms seem much more flexible with more joist choices/materials etc.?

How is the roof built? Where/how do he rafters interact with the exterior walls? Do they rest on the outside wall with a birds mouth? How big are the rafters? The baseline will not position the height of the roof and rafters, but you can raise the roofs until the rafters rest on the outside wall the way the structure is actually built. Try this. With auto build roofs and auto framing on build the roof and raise/lower from ceiling height until the rafters go over the outside of the wall the way it is built. And as always wait for the smart guys to chime in.

Didn't know a bearing line allowed for defining different floor framing. I've always used room "structure" tab. Seems a bit more flexible.