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Mark - thanks for the suggestion, but it's not going to work in this case as there are too many converging angles and Chief will only place molding parallel to the floor which would be okay for the outer walls. I have found that I can pull up the attic walls the necessary distant and it seems to work. I'll probably do this at the very end once I've got the rafters/roof beams all set. Kevin

Mark - that's clever and will save me tons of time. Thanks for the suggestion! Kevin

Mark - thanks for the response. Yes, you are correct that the wall framing stops where it meets the roof beams/rafters and would have been framed in between rafters for hanging paneling (in this case). This is what is shown on the original plans. So, I guess using a p-solid in this instance isn't really cheating... I was hoping Chief would automate this in some way. Kevin

Mick - You're probably right about it being 2 x 6 material (T&G). I'm going out there tomorrow to remove part of the soffit. That should tell me what I need to know. I took it for granted since i had the plans. I have measured the roof rafters/beams and they are 4' OC and are 4 x 6's. With these specs I am fairly certain they make up the roof structure. Besides, the cross-section shows 7'-3" to the bottom of the 4 x 4 beveled top plate. When I add in the top plate and height of roof beams to T&G, I get a total that equals my inside ceiling measurement of 98". This is why it was necessary for me to raise the roof by 11.5". Kevin I'll do some more digging tomorrow onsite. These older homes are fairly typical of our remodeling projects, but I haven't come across one built this way before. Thanks for your input.

Steve - I think you're right about the tongue & groove being thicker. It never occurred to me that they would have used 2 x 6 as it's so expensive nowadays.

In this view looking at the skylight, there does appear to be something going on above the roof beams and T&G.

Hi Steve. I raised the roof that amount to match the interior measurements I took at the exterior wall up to the T&G. This was the only way I could get the proper ceiling height. I have attached the original set of plans from 1973 in the last post and was trying to recreate as closely as possible. As per the plans, there is no roof system above the beams. The exposed rafters are the roof system. I think I will attempt to manually draw the structure using roof beams tomorrow - just not sure how to "override" Chief's required roof structure panel - guess I'll try zeroing everything out. Thanks for you input. Kevin Attached is an photo of the interior with all it's existing beauty -

Hi Mick. Thanks for chiming in. That's a really good question. Attached are the original plans from 1973 and there doesn't appear to be any insulation other than roof sheathing and felt paper. That said, it could be that the original client opted to have the beams exposed and they deviated from the plans as there's no mention of exposed beams anywhere in this set. These building techniques date back before my time and the construction is a bit alien. It's a really cool house though and our company was fortunate to get the remodeling contract - most of which is cosmetic and on the interior. I'd really like to represent it as closely as possible in Chief. Assuming I decide to tackle this with manually drawn roof beams, what do I enter into the roof structure layers? I am sure Chief is expecting something. Do I just zero everything out and draw my own? Will the walls know how to behave in relation to the roof sheathing? I am not really sure how to go about recreating this build in Chief most efficiently. Kevin PLAN_REDACTED_06-05-20.pdf

Mark - I think that might be the route I'll take - especially as Chief isn't doing so well where the three roofs intersect at the core of the home.

Thanks again for you time. I think this will be close enough for now. That said, would it work better if I were to draw the roof beams manually (as decorative beams)? Is this how most users go about it? I ask as Chief's videos highlight this method.

Thanks again. Attached is the latest version of it. CHF_Beacham_Shambaugh_REMODEL_07-15-20.zip

Brilliant. That did work; however, my walls (interior and exterior) have failed to meet the sheathing above the rafters. Attached is an image of the roof structure. Do I have the layers correct or should I change something to bring the wall up? Kevin

dshall - I've done as you said and the rafters are now showing up - thanks. They are coming in white though and when I select all of them using the rafter tool, I have no option to reset the material to use default when opening all of them at once. Also, the few I have changed individually - when I switch to default material, they come in as the standard fir framing which I am guessing is driven by the default material under "framing". I can change it here, but then all of my framing will be birch, ebonized which I don't want. Also, the walls will not penetrate the beams as shown in the attached image. I'd appreciate any help with this. Kevin

I should have also mentioned that it is someone with whom I've never interacted with on the forum.

Thanks Michael. Understand, but almost certain I've got the right person as I've had dealings with him outside of the forum. If I'm wrong, blocking him isn't go to hurt anything.

Glenn - thank you very much. I was looking on their user page for a way to block. I wonder if this will prevent the assault or if they're able to continue downvoting. Guess I'll find out soon enough. Thanks again! Kevin

Larry - I agree. I did just find out who the culprit was. He just downvoted another post of mine in real time at which time I switched over to online users revealing his identity. It does not surprise me in the least. At one time I was reading all of the older posts on this forum and ran across his countless arguments with other users. It would be nice if possible to block him, but I see no way to do that. At least I know what type of person I'm dealing with now!

Hey dshall. Thanks for catching that.

Yes, I have all the layers turned on. Attached are images of my roof layers - surface and structure. See anything wrong here? Kevin

Thanks Eric. I have tried all of those things and still not showing up.

I'm working on a mid-Century modern home with exposed rafters/beams and cannot figure out how to get the rafters to show up in my 3D views. I've been searching the forum and CA videos for a couple hours without any luck. The videos by Chief show decorative beams using the roof beam tool. My rafters for this build are the exposed beams. Further, I don't want the rafter tails exposed on the exterior soffit - only inside. Is it even possible to show exposed structural rafters? I would think so, but have not found a solution. Also, the finish above the rafters is 3/4" T&G. It must be a problem with how I have set up my layers. Thanks! Kevin CHF_Beacham_Shambaugh_REMODEL_07-15-20.zip

Yes, it's definitely a targeted action. I tried contacting the Chief moderator a few weeks ago for an unrelated issue (a disappearing post) and have yet to hear back from them, so I guess I'll just live with it. Also, I'd feel kinda' silly stooping to the level of this anonymous voter by filing a complaint - high school was a few decades ago - Thanks again for your input! Kevin

Thanks Mark. Yes, evidently I must have upset someone. I have no idea who that might have been as I've been polite to everyone I've encountered on this forum. Whoever it is, is going back to older posts and downvoting those too - very mature of them! I was going to let it pass, but noticed this new downvote today from a week old post. I'm feeling a little silly myself that I'm letting it get to me though...

This is the sixth downvote in the last week and a half. Whoever you are, you're a petty coward. If you have a problem with something I post, speak up! I've been nothing, but respectful on this forum as I try to learn Chief Architect. I give plenty of upvotes (most of the time maxing out my limits for the day) and have never downvoted anyone - nor will I ever. Awfully brave of you to hide behind anonymity! Take all the reputation points if it makes you feel better about yourself!

Thanks for the tip Michael.