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Rene is correct... I had tried to recreate in a plan I was working on and for some reason (maybe I have a template issue?) it didn't work. Copied to the "residential template"...worked perfectly.

I created my own file...and the walls did not generate...so, maybe it's "finicky"?

Larry...I think Chief does these things to make sure we stay "crazy". I think Mark is correct...it's due to the fact that the two roof planes are so close together. I usually just drag the one attic wall...or, create my own attic wall. I think everyone just automatically does this to keep moving...but, it'd be nice if it just worked. Yea...after 20+ years of development you'd think Chief would have fixed this. But - maybe they have a good reason it works the way it does.

Bob... I believe the problem has been created by the way you set the building ceiling elevation. I didn't check every room...but it appears you have the ceiling height set to 180" everywhere. This is the problem. What I think you should have done is set the ceiling height to 109.125 (or whatever the base ceiling height should be). Then, uncheck "flat ceiling" on the room structure tab...put the roof on the building and let the software create "attic walls" to fill the void. I also used a "doorway" to create the opening that leads to the restrooms in place of using an invisible wall...just seems to be easier and works more consistently. Here is my sketch...maybe it'll help you understand what I did: Bob - Plan with Shed Roof 01.plan As you can see from the pics I've attached...this is how my attached plan was created and these "quirky" PIA problems do not exist.

You need a sledgehammer to get it all to work...because Chief just won't work on fixing the stair tool. However....the plan attached looks good to me. The bounding box of the newel isn't the problem...it's the width of the railing wall...and to some degree you have to adjust the doorway that the stairs create. Yea...total PIA. I used a "countertop" to create the porch overhang with a custom molding edge...and adjusted the display order of each object. I also changed the way you used the room divider wall...no need to make it as complex as you did. My room divider walls are on the invisible layer...so, you will have to turn the layer on to see them. deckrailing1 - Steve Nestor FIX 02.plan Newel Post for Rob Dyck -02.calibz Don't blame me if it isn't "perfect"...

I was referring to where the stair handrail was not connecting to the horizontal patio railing. The reason that the top/bottom rail is cut off is due to the bounding box of the post....and maybe the width of the wall. You have checked the box to "use wall width" in the newels/balusters tab of the railing DBX. My first thought was the wall was cutting off the handrail...but, I believe it's the post you created. The bounding box of the post is the width of the base plate...and that seems to be the line where the stair railing is cut off. If you replace the post I created with the one in your plan you will see that these rails will join together. I also unchecked the "use wall width" box.

@robdyck You might try changing the size of the bounding box of your custom newel. Right now Chief is using the base plate as the newel width. You have the newel set to be the width of the wall...so, the handrail is trimming off right at the wall surface. If you uncheck the box to make the newel the width of the wall...and, on the general tab, make the wall width 5"...or experiment...maybe make it 6". This will place the newel and the base inside your porch. It's the size of the bounding box that is the problem...on the newel I created I set the bounding box to be 3"x3"...which is the size of the newel I created. I also moved the "Y" axis in toward the newel 3/4". I've attached a fix plan...and the newel I created. Plan: deckrailing1 - Steve Nestor FIX 01.plan Newel: Newel for Rob Dyck.calibz

This is all I meant by my previous post. I probably would never do this...but, if one wanted to set up a saved plan view that had the default sets he wanted to start with each time he wanted to create a new "plan view"...he could create a plan view and name it "DEFAULT PLAN VIEW"....then, as needed, right click this view and "DUPLICATE". You would still have to edit the new plan view...I don't see this being a big time saver.

Create a Plan View and edit it...name it Default and just copy it to create new plan views. You should do this in your template so the “default” plan view appears in each new plan.

Scott - I believe the door opening lines are hard coded into Chief. You don’t have control of the dashed line size. You should send a ticket into Chief Support and ask for clarification. I think Chief stuck this feature in to satisfy some request they got and has now completely forgotten about this...thus no added features or controls. They do this too often IMO.

Now that is a creative solution...excellent. With Chief's stair tool...you gotta think outside the box...way outside.

Thanks Scott for hosting a wonderful webinar...always fun times. Attached is a small Kitchen sample style pallet you can mess with and see what happens. Some of the pallets are meant to be used by "object"...others by "room". I'm sure you will figure out which is which... Kitchen Style Pallet Example 01.calibz

"It would be a lot easier of people would just post plans. " Yes it would.

Not all walls...you can define a pony wall as a "railing"...and set it to "follow stairs". see attached... But, for the OP's question Michael is correct...but, I can't seem to get it to work. Chief...please start from scratch and make the stair tool so superior that we don't ever need to post another "issue with stairs"...

You should always post the plan...it saves us from guessing. That said...dimensions are controlled by the annotation/default set you are using. Double click the "ruler" icon and view the settings.

Is the OP still in this or what? @buildinthevoid - How about attaching a plan so we don't have to keep guessing?

Thanks so much. I’m with you on the learning. Chief is a very robust piece of software and you probably will never become expert on every part of it.

I'm right there with you Perry...Scott's videos were fantastic...always a laugh and he is a great guy. His videos were one of the main reasons I purchased the software. Bought me lunch in SD a few years ago and I owe him!

Please post your plan...or at least an example plan. Thanks

Yea...but, when it comes to government regulation...to me that's a sales pitch. I've heard that song/dance for way to long...and now I've reached a point where I'm not eager to trade my Liberty for something as vague as "the possibility of more work". I believe less regulation always leads too much more construction....thus, more work for everyone. Now...don't get me wrong, the Building Code has it's place...I'm not advocating to abolish it altogether. Just a slowing of the growth of the code would make me happy. Unfortunately, it appears the Building Code is like a weed that never stops and to many has stretched beyond way beyond its original intention. Just my two cents.

Lumber is about the least expensive item in a house...so, I don't concern myself with such things as building on a 24"/48" grid. However, building on 16" increments to accommodate lumber/plywood sizes just makes sense - to a certain degree...but, not at the expense of good design.

I'm right there with you Joey! Indiana is still free from an over-burdensome building code. Let's hope it stays that way...

Thanks Scott...that's a big pat on the back coming from you. Tell us again how many Chief Videos have you made?

I personally don’t like the snap grid lines to be “on” and almost never use them. For plan development I like to set the grid snap to either 12” or sometimes I’ll set it to 4”. You don’t need to see the grid to use a fixed snap dimension - and the grid lines just make the drawing that more complex. Rough in the exterior walls to even dimensions - then autu dimension - then go around clockwise and adjust the wall offset dimensions as needed. Fast and simple.

I’ve got a YouTube channel with a lot of good lesson/how to videos. Might give you some idea. Click the link in my signature below...it’ll take you to my channel. Chief is an incredible piece of software and the Company listens to its users and adds great improvements to the software every year. You will be happy if you purchase Chief.