Staircase railing into wall: how-to? Edit! zipped plan file attached

[GeneDavis]

Two pics attached.  I want each side to have its railing die into the wall, meaning that the stair widens one side at a different tread than the other.  I also want the newels moved enough out, out meaning away from the bottom riser and tread nose, so that both tread and riser resolve into the newels.

 

Steve from Chief Skills has a six-year-old video up on YouTube and he hacks it by pasting on short 3" and 2" wide stairs at the bottom runout.  But that was a few Xs ago.

 

This need of mine has gotta be a common one.  How do you address it in X17.

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Edited Monday at 05:14 PM by GeneDavis

[DBCooper]

I think all you need to do is add a "complete break" to your stair where the wall ends and then you can make the lower section wider.  I did a quick look but could not find a tech article or video on it although I thought for sure there was one.

 

 

[Greg_NY61]

If I'm not mistaken, when you select the lower section there is an icon at the taskbar that saying "Disconnect Selected Subsection" next to Transform/Replicate icon

[PitMan71]

I think what's going to create somewhat of an issue here is that it will need two complete breaks. When I did that the stair appeared as desired, but it added a newel post midway up that right side that I could not remove. When I removed the post from that section it removed them everywhere.

[DBCooper]

You added a "break" instead of a "complete break".  They do different things.  You can use the "disconnect selected subsection" tool (like Greg suggested) and then pull the lower section out wider.  

 

You will need to add another "complete break" for the bottom part (or add another break and then disconnect it again).

 

To get rid of the extra newel post, just shift-select the middle section and then you can open the stair dialog and turn off the newel post.  Anytime you want to just change one stair section instead of all of them, you can use the shift-select trick to isolate it otherwise it will change all of the connected sections.

 

You may have some other minor issues with the railing having a break in it because the stair slopes are not all exactly the same (see my picture below).  This kind of depends on where you put the breaks.  If you make all of the stair sections have locked treads and make them the same, you can probably solve this problem. 

 

You may not be able to get things like the wall trim and railing end to be exactly how you want them though.  Chief doesn't really like it if you try to have a wall end at the middle of a stair tread and it seems to work better when the full tread is either all against the wall or none of it is.  There is no easy way to notch a tread to fit around the wall corner.

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:16 AM by DBCooper

[PitMan71]

9 hours ago, DBCooper said:

To get rid of the extra newel post, just shift-select the middle section and then you can open the stair dialog and turn off the newel post.

Thanks for that tip. it worked perfectly.