Roof Label Units

[JKEdmo]

Good morning,

 

Is there a way to modify the default roof label units to round to nearest 1/2"?

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

 

 

[Alaskan_Son]

Yes, but why would you want that if it’s not accurate?  Why not change the pitch and make your model correct?  

[scottkendall]

2 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

Yes, but why would you want that if it’s not accurate?  Why not change the pitch and make your model correct?  

 

One reason that I do not condone would be:

 

High limitation if you use the right pitch you will exceed it so you draw it at one height/pitch and build it at another since the plan checker will check the high but no building inspector is going to and even if they do if you are only a few inches over they will chalk it up to field construction.  Some contractors love to live in the grey area and walk the line of what is code compliant and what is not.  

 

Also I am not sure any framer is going to follow that 3 5/16 : 12 pitch... Maybe 3 1/4 : 12... I am not sure I would want my tolerance set to 1/2 but 1/8" - 1/4" is what I have had contractors ask me for they get really prissy when you give them fractions like 5/16 or 3/32 lol. 

 

 

 

[Alaskan_Son]

5 hours ago, scottkendall said:

 

One reason that I do not condone would be:

 

High limitation if you use the right pitch you will exceed it so you draw it at one height/pitch and build it at another since the plan checker will check the high but no building inspector is going to and even if they do if you are only a few inches over they will chalk it up to field construction.  Some contractors love to live in the grey area and walk the line of what is code compliant and what is not.  

 

Also I am not sure any framer is going to follow that 3 5/16 : 12 pitch... Maybe 3 1/4 : 12... I am not sure I would want my tolerance set to 1/2 but 1/8" - 1/4" is what I have had contractors ask me for they get really prissy when you give them fractions like 5/16 or 3/32 lol. 

 

 

 

 

You're talking about reasons to draw at a different pitch then it will be built.  I was asking why someone would want to round to a different pitch instead of drawing to the desired pitch.  What it gets built at wasn't part of the equation.  In other words, why would someone need to draw a roof at 3 5/16:12 and show at 3 1/2:12?  Why not just change the roof to 3 1/2:12? 

[SHCanada2]

My guess is one reason is 3.5 to 12 might put the building over height on the elevations which the city checks for bylaw compliance. 

 

Or it needs to be that pitch to meet an existing roof or wall and no one wants to see 16 of on inch . In other words it is understood by everyone that the roofs must meet and this pitch is provided so one can understand what it looks like relative to other roof pitches

 

I think this type of thing is done in a few places. Decks come to mind. If the stud is used as the dimension of a building then if I add a 10ft deck. The overall stud dimension of the building and deck is an extra 3/8 for the sheathing in between the deck and building. But the framer doesn't take off 3/8 and the plans do not show an extra 3/8

[JKEdmo]

10 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

Yes, but why would you want that if it’s not accurate?

It's an as-built of an existing house so my model will not be 100% accurate.  Just trying for a reasonable representation of existing conditions including roof units.

 

Was asking if there is a way to "clean up" the dimension output so it's more sane.  I know I can manually override the dimension with text.  I know I can also adjust the roof steepness for the output I want.

 

I was just curious if there was another way through dimensional units setting.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

 

[JKEdmo]

22 minutes ago, SHCanada2 said:

Or it needs to be that pitch to meet an existing roof or wall and no one wants to see 16 of on inch

 

Bingo!  That's it Jason.  I guess I should have been clearer that it is not new construction, but existing.

 

Was just wondering if roof slope dimension had unit rounding control similar to regular dimensions.  So far have not found anything.

 

Jim