kwhitt Posted December 1, 2024 Author Share Posted December 1, 2024 On 11/29/2024 at 5:15 PM, Renerabbitt said: Chief X16: Renee - Nice! Have you tried ACES tone mapping? I just did in the scene below. It almost makes post-production in Photoshop unnecessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHCanada2 Posted December 1, 2024 Share Posted December 1, 2024 9 hours ago, kwhitt said: Area lights are used to replace light fixtures such as overhead ceiling lights so, in a way, they do exist in the real world and this is the rendering engine's way of simulating them.. thanks for the education, so my take on this is, the light is used to try and make the render have more depth, because at the end of the day, a picture is, well a 2d representation, and not what we see with our eyes. so by adding these artificial area lights, this is an attempt to make the picture look more 3Dish, and hence more like the 3D world we live in. I'm always interested in making the render better, but my stuff is not all about the render. the render sets me apart from the next guy, So my interest in the render is "how can I make it better, and then repeat the process so it is not a long endeavor every time" Today I pull two maybe 3 cameras, edit the sun position, backdrop intensity, sun intensity, add in some pot lights to brighten it up and and then fiddle a little bit with the exposure or those other 3 scroll bars, and call it a day. So I'm always looking for tips that are repeatable. I'm personally not interested in rendering in other software as most of my work involves multiple variations of floor plan design, and I have no patience for manually touching up photos/models, and then doing that all again for the next iteration. That's one of the reasons why I keep a live view of the camera on layout (I think you and I were both on a thread trying to get this render to layout process working better)...I hate manual repetitive steps. I'd rather wait for the layout to update, and go watch some paint dry, than make images or screenshot like others do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 5:55 AM, kwhitt said: Nice! Have you tried ACES tone mapping? Thank you, and I have been using hable for most shots as most of my materials use AO maps and shadows with aces have a bit too much contrast. Also I have a ton of filters for Chief in photoshop so its just a single click to make a ton of adjustments ...this is a filter that messes with perspective geometry, fake bokeh, some color grading, a curves adjustment, shadow lift, adds grain and sharpening as an example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkjernis Posted yesterday at 11:05 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:05 AM How do I improve this image? How do I add the necessary area lights to improve it? Best Regards. Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bkjernis Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Excellent Bob. Do you have a tutorial? Thanks a whole bunch. Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketballman Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Hi Brent: I create these from users Chief files I have an introductory special starting at $49.00 per room .. Kitchen Designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYdCb3lvuic Living Room Designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQwMV0EtDC8 Cuban Mid Century Modern Living Room Design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ewcbrBz9iE Dining Room Designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_9nTJ3aBnw Eclectic Chic Living Room Design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCMsfPp1N8A Primary Bedroom Designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8K_XXrHzsk Traditional Bedroom Design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJDJ3C33m8U Bob Shofner WEBSITE: https://rmsdesigngroup.wixsite.com/website E-MAIL: rmsdesigngroup@gmail.com 973-897-5013 - Cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHCanada2 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 6 hours ago, bkjernis said: How do I improve this image? How do I add the necessary area lights to improve it? easiest is to change your exposure to manual and adjust it, adjusting brightness can also help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkjernis Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Thank you Bob and SHCanada2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketballman Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Doubtful Chief will ever equal the same quality as 3rd party rendering programs, without a ton of time/effort spent tweaking .. And people friendly sweeps and unboxing videos ? forget it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHCanada2 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) I think it depends on what the customer wants. I use a camera on layout, which means I can make changes or different versions of plans without having to do anything. If I had to constantly make screenshots or image files and run them through a 3rd party app, it would make me go a little crazy. I really only adjust backdrop intensity, sun intensity, sun location, manual exposure and brightness. And I will add in or move pot lights. But interior rendering is not my business, plans are my business, and the rendering, even if it is basic, sets me apart. So if one is providing rendering for more of a "this is what that plan will look like" reason, my thoughts are it does quite well with just those 5 adjustments. The one I did a couple weeks ago is below: sure the bookcase is not filled and there are no basket of apples on the coffee table, but it conveys the space, furniture placement, colors. Edited 14 hours ago by SHCanada2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketballman Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago " If your clients are happy with that level of quality; then that's all that is important." Mine are a little more particular and would expect something that looks like this ... " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHCanada2 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago i'll admit that is pretty slick, you even got the fruit on the counter!. although I like the brightness of mine better. but I assume you just tell the app you are using to make yours brighter, and it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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