dshall Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Please open the plan. I have two shadow boards on the roof eaves. See if you can manipulate each shadow board separately. It seems as if I can do a horizontal offset for shadow board 1, and then when I try shadow board 2 horizontal offset, it is shadow board 1 moving and not shadow board 2. Try offsetting each shadow board away from the wall and towards the wall. At one time I could do this in X6, and now I can not do this in x7 . BBB SHADOWBOARDS 1.plan.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Scott, both shadow boards are set to 1.5" in depth, one is set to 18 tall and the other is set to 24 " tall, so they are merely occupying the same space relative to their depths, at least that is what I see. When I vary the depths then I can see both shadow boards. Admittedly, I rarely use shadow boards so my observations may be off some. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Scott, both shadow boards are set to 1.5" in depth, one is set to 18 tall and the other is set to 24 " tall, so they are merely occupying the same space relative to their depths, at least that is what I see. When I vary the depths then I can see both shadow boards. Admittedly, I rarely use shadow boards so my observations may be off some. DJP I disagree, they do not occupy the same space. Put a different material on each shadow board and change the 24" shadow board to 8" hi, you will then see the difference. I also have an offset for the shadow boards, did you notice the offset? Since there is an offset, they should not be occupying the same space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kMoquin Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I am able to move them independently, but i dragged the overhang out to 36". I did see them both move at one point. That happened when I tried to offset them a distance greater than the overhang. There is an interaction with the overhang amount. I think your issue is that Molding1 is set to offset 5 1/4 inches when your overhang is only 4". Also it seems we are not able to offset the shadow boards beyond the extent of the roof overhang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicinus Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 It behaves a bit odd to me. I looked at the little bay window on one of the short sides, and changed one of the shadow boards to being 3" wide and the other to a 1/4" just to easily separate them and see what was going on. They certainly didn't move the way I expected when I changed the offset. Is there a way to upload an image without having to go through the whole mymedia exercise? It doesn't seem to work with copy/paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Just delete the shadow boards and use the sub fascia and fascia to what you want them to be very simple, the rafters will then go to the outside plate line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 ......I think your issue is that Molding1 is set to offset 5 1/4 inches when your overhang is only 4". ........ That was it, thanks Moakster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 ......I think your issue is that Molding1 is set to offset 5 1/4 inches when your overhang is only 4". This was not very intuitive for me. Instead of the offsets being measured from the fascia, they are actually measured from the defined eave overhang. Never had a problem before, I suppose I was attacking is from a different perspective this time which confused me. Thanks again, Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicinus Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 This is the way it seems to work for me. If your shadow board is 2" thick and you set hor. offset to 0" it will then make room for the 2" inwards. Roof plane is the same size. If you add a second 1/2" board at 0 offset it will overlap at the inner edge. If you instead give the new board an offset of 2", it will leapfrog that first board and push it in by 1/2" now making the stacked set 2 1/2". Makes sense? I should have made a video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicinus Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Also it seems we are not able to offset the shadow boards beyond the extent of the roof overhang. I couldn't do that either, a negative value just seems to change the relation between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kMoquin Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I stumbled upon it when things were not exactly behaving and I dragged the overhang out so I could play with larger offset numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicinus Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 After doodling with this a little more I would like to correct myself, and it now makes sense to me. I think I failed to consider the width of the base gable fascia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Isn't using the sub-fascia and the fascia the same thing, In that case you don't need shadow boards. if you need a built up fascia then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Isn't using the sub-fascia and the fascia the same thing, In that case you don't need shadow boards. if you need a built up fascia then yes. I should do a vid on this to explore the advantages and disadvantages of using the sub fascia and fascia as shadow boards. I don't remember why, but I am almost to the point where I would almost zero out the fascia boards and rely on the shadow boards for fascia..... there is a reason.... I just have to remember why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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