ACADuser Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 When you edit a CAD block in the user Library where does the "CAD Block Detail Layer Set" come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, ACADuser said: When you edit a CAD block in the user Library where does the "CAD Block Detail Layer Set" come from? 1st thought......Layerset Defaults perhaps? it's one of the Options here : * I think I remember changing it a while back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 It doesn't work that way for me. If you edit the layer set while editing the block it doesn't save the edits. I can't find the source yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, ACADuser said: If you edit the layer set while editing the block it doesn't save the edits. I can't find the source yet. Did you try editing the layer in Plan View ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 What does the window title say when you edit a cad block from the library? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, Chopsaw said: Did you try editing the layer in Plan View ? You can edit the Layer via Layerset Management It seems no matter where or in what SVP you are in, the Edit CAD Block Tool calls up it's own CAD Detail (SP)View , with Plan Default Set, Plan Dims and CAD Block Detail Set Layerset initially. If you Open the CAD Detail Specs, with the Edit View Tool you can access the Selected Defaults for that View..... At least at this point I have not found a place to change the Defaults for the CAD Detail Specification ....Dermot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: At least at this point I have not found a place to change the Defaults for the CAD Detail Specification ....Dermot? It would also be nice to know if there is a way to save the newly edited Cad Detail without closing the window and getting the pop up that asks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 You can not save edit to this DBX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Maybe my question wasn't clear enough. Take a look at the picture below for what I meant. The title of the window says "Temporary Library Browser Document". It does not say "Untitled 7" like the other window. These windows are not part of the same document. Changes in one will not result in changes in the other. The same as if you had two different plans open. When you edit a cad block from the library browser, the program will open a special cad detail window that is using a temporary document that was created just for this purpose. Making any changes to any of your settings in this temporary document will not affect any other documents that you may have open. There are a couple of caveats to this though. For example, if you create a new custom layer and assign it to one of the cad objects in your cad block, then the cad block will "own" this layer. If you then place this cad block into a new plan, then the program should also copy this new layer into the plan. This only happens when you edit a cad block in the library. If you edit a cad block from within a plan, the program does not need to do this. You might see similar issues when editing other objects from the library. If you use the "Define" button from one of the specification dialogs, you are not actually defining the properties for any plans that are currently open, only the temporary library browser document. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Dermot said: The title of the window says "Temporary Library Browser Document". It does not say "Untitled 7" like the other window. These windows are not part of the same document. Changes in one will not result in changes in the other. The same as if you had two different plans open. Can't speak for Others , but I did Notice the TLBD Window name , so then tested the Edit CAD Block Tool in a CAD Detail and IN Plan and it seems to use a hardcoded set of "Selected defaults" for that CAD View, ( not sure why it doesn't use the CAD Detail Anno though) which seems to only be editable AFTER the View is created. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 When you right click on a library object & edit the cad block that is the name that Chief created for the temp window. Where does Chief get the temp layer set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 I'm communication with tech support, trying to find the origin of that temporary layer set. Or is it not temporary, in that it is saved with the block but not re-saved if edited during the block edit secession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Changes to the cad block should be retained. Other changes to the temporary document will not. Does it really matter how we made it? How do you want it to work differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 OK I have about 15 layers that I made to use in cad blocks & the line weights are not always correct in all layer sets. I open the block to edit & some line weight are way out of wack, 25 or 18 when they need to be 3. I know it only trashes what I see in the edit window but I want WYSIWYG. So Chief gets these, unique to me, layers from somewhere. I'd like to know where. I'll spend so more time tomorrow to see if I can figure it out on my own. PS How about this example. I want to correct 3 or 4 similar blocks and each one I must edit the line weight to see what they look like before i save them. Sorry to be so picky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, ACADuser said: So Chief gets these, unique to me, layers from somewhere. I'd like to know where. So they aren't in your CAD Block Detail Set Layerset? 12 minutes ago, ACADuser said: I open the block to edit & some line weight are way out of wack, 25 or 18 when they need to be 3. Sounds like some of the unblocked items are not using the Layer for color or linestyle ( see checkboxes ) Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I think it uses whatever layer set was last active in your default template plan. So you may want to fix up all of your layers in your default template plan first. Please be aware that I think it only creates this temporary document once and then keeps it in memory. So if you were to do something to change your default template, it won't update until you restart the program. Another option, that might make it easier to control the layer settings, would be to place the cad block into a plan that you know is setup correctly, edit the cad block from there, and then save it back into the library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 34 minutes ago, Dermot said: I think it uses whatever layer set was last active in your default template plan This, appears to be correct guess what color I made all the Text in that file..... * the second part is correct as well Please be aware that I think it only creates this temporary document once so if you were to do something to change your default template that it won't update until you restart the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 I like answers thanks What if the block has layers that are not in the template. Guess they are just added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 Well it's not quite correct. I'll live with this condition. Attached is the active set in the template file. Next is the Library Block Edit layer set. Very odd that some layers were added, one line weight was changed, and visibility was uncheck in some. The block that I was editing had only CAD, Default layer in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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