IS THERE ANYWAY TO CHANGE FROM IJOIST TO WEB FRAMED FLOOR JOIST?


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10 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

You can't change a joist to a truss, but you can draw a truss.  Check out the Build>Framing>Floor/Ceiling Truss tool.

 

I guess we are a little short on details to know for sure but my interpretation would be that he wants a metal webbed I Joist.

 

Depending on the design that might be even more difficult than the steel roof/floor joists you did with moldings in your video.

 

Something like these maybe.

 

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2 minutes ago, CUBRAD said:

I'M WORKING ON A 2 STORY HOUSE AND THEY WANT A OPEN FLOOR SPAN. SO I'M GOING TO USE A 3 1/2X 24" WEB FLOOR TRUSS TO SPAN UPPER 2ND FLOOR

 

Its really hard to read your posts when you're using all caps.  Its bad enough to me personally that I might pass right on by sometimes and not even read it or respond to it.  It's also genrally considered to be aggressive which makes it that much more difficult to read when you're not actually being aggressive on purpose.  I suggest you switch to normal case. 

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20 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

 

I guess we are a little short on details to know for sure but my interpretation would be that he wants a metal webbed I Joist.

 

Depending on the design that might be even more difficult than the steel roof/floor joists you did with moldings in your video.

 

Something like these maybe.

 

Overview

YEAH THAT'S WHAT I PLAN ON USING...BP

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2 minutes ago, CUBRAD said:

YEAH THAT'S WHAT I PLAN ON USING...BP

 

There are all sorts of approaches a person could take to model those types of joists/trusses.  I think for most applications though I would just use a normal floor truss and then detail/annotate in elevation/section views as necessary.

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1 hour ago, CUBRAD said:

THIS WHAT I CAME UP WITH...

 

Looks good and the truss engineers will determine the required webbing but you can adjust the Maximum Top and Bottom Chord Span such that there is a vertical web under your knee walls.

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3 minutes ago, DzinEye said:

Hey Chop.... out of curiosity, what brand are these particular joists if you know?

 

Funny thing is that they were actually designed and patent about 20 years ago by a local guy I knew but they seem to be fairly widely available now that the patent has run out.

 

https://www.mitek.ca/Products/Truss-Connector-Plates/POSI-STRUT-Floor-System/

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6 minutes ago, DzinEye said:

Hey Chop.... out of curiosity, what brand are these particular joists if you know?

I know you weren't asking me...these are similar

https://www.redbuilt.com/products/open-web-trusses/

Any truss mfr using Mitek software / products could build these (it appears)

https://www.mitek.ca/Products/Truss-Connector-Plates/POSI-STRUT-Webs/

 

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3 minutes ago, robdyck said:

I know you weren't asking me...these are similar

https://www.redbuilt.com/products/open-web-trusses/

Any truss mfr using Mitek software / products could build these (it appears)

https://www.mitek.ca/Products/Truss-Connector-Plates/POSI-STRUT-Webs/

 

Thanks Robert.  Actually I was looking for a possibly less expensive alternative to Red-built, and to me this system looks like it should be cheaper to manufacture.  After Chop indicated they were made in Canada I thought there was no chance of them being an option here, but your second link there gives me hope, so I'm going to contact them to see if anyone around here uses their system.

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7 minutes ago, DzinEye said:

After Chop indicated they were made in Canada I thought there was no chance of them being an option here, but your second link there gives me hope, so I'm going to contact them to see if anyone around here uses their system.

 

Sorry Mitek is an international company so there should not be an issue.  Do your local supplies use their software ?

 

https://www.mitek-us.com/posi-strut/

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6 minutes ago, DzinEye said:

Thanks Robert.  Actually I was looking for a possibly less expensive alternative to Red-built, and to me this system looks like it should be cheaper to manufacture.  After Chop indicated they were made in Canada I thought there was no chance of them being an option here, but your second link there gives me hope, so I'm going to contact them to see if anyone around here uses their system.

Of course the price of steel is a bit off of the norm these days, but it seems simpler than the typical OWWJ with wood webs and metal connector plates.

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3 minutes ago, robdyck said:

Of course the price of steel is a bit off of the norm these days, but it seems simpler than the typical OWWJ with wood webs and metal connector plates.

Agreed.   I'll comment if I find out cost comparison info

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