Kbird1 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, kwhitt said: Thanks Mick. The mirror material I used was from the library and I altered the settings from mirror to shiny metal. It was a new material. Would you mind rendering my scene using the saved camera right out of the box with no changes? It works for me every time - just tested again... For some reason the Wall behind the Camera is RED ? hence the "tint" in the Pics ..... Changing it back to default I still do not see a reflection as such ...of the Room like a Mirror ...... in fact the Mirror goes "gray" like in your bathroom once the Wall is the default material again - cam moved to side incase I was missing the room reflection with Refraction OFF in the RTRT technique DBX there is a reflection..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitt Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Christina_Girerd said: Oops - you're right. Got distracted. Here is a similar view (didn't save the other one) in a PBR export, again no materials or lighting changed. This took a little longer, maybe over one minute, but I had video playing in another window which might have impacted it. Thanks Christina for confirming the export works fine on your machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitt Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 40 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: For some reason the Wall behind the Camera is RED ? hence the "tint" in the Pics ..... Changing it back to default I still do not see a reflection as such ...of the Room like a Mirror ...... in fact the Mirror goes "gray" like in your bathroom once the Wall is the default material again - cam moved to side incase I was missing the room reflection with Refraction OFF in the RTRT technique DBX there is a reflection..... Mick - I think you misunderstood my method. The wall is red intentionally, so that it unmistakably shows up in the mirror reflection. Here is the same scene with a funky damask wallpaper and the pattern shows up in the reflection through reflective glass on the left mirror which is the shiny metal material hack. The right mirror is the standard material set to mirror under properties and shows no reflection. This cannot be mistaken for an aberrant red hue. The engine, it seems, is capable of showing reflections through glass under certain circumstances. Now only to find out what those circumstances might be... Attached is the file for confirmation. I think Chief's new engine is robust, but it now needs physically correct materials to complete it. Reflections Behind Glass02.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, kwhitt said: I think you misunderstood my method. The wall is red intentionally Nope , I just didn't see any red in the Mirror , so swapped it back to Default and it went "grey" not beige as expected..... maybe I had wrong plan ? you have posted a few , I'll try again with Glass02..... Nope I don't have the Damask texture apparently let me try something else. Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I think that Hack is working , the Red Hue reflected on the Wall Glass , just made it look like it wasn't there , similar to the Chevron I used here , but rasing the ceiling and looking over the glass ( 1/2 / 1/2 ) confirms it..... looks a bit strange though.... and it is "fuzzy" unlike the real mirror being Metal reflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitt Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: Nope , I just didn't see any red in the Mirror , so swapped it back to Default and it went "grey" not beige as expected..... maybe I had wrong plan ? you have posted a few , I'll try again with Glass02..... Nope I don't have the Damask texture apparently let me try something else. Mick. It's definitely showing up. Here's a shot of a cylinder reflected in the mirror on the camera side of the refractive glass. I'd be curious to see what you get. I posted the file again in my latest post so as not to confuse with the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 yes used new file , see last post for pics it wouldn't let me add a few minutes ago.... Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, kwhitt said: Here's a shot of a cylinder reflected in the mirror on the camera side of the refractive glass. I'd be curious to see what you get You can see the Chevron wallpaper I used on the Wall, reflected on the Glass wall Camera side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitt Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: You can see the Chevron wallpaper I used on the Wall, reflected on the Glass wall Camera side Mick - I don't see your uploaded images, but thanks for confirming. Now that I've spent the whole day on this, what does it mean? Nothing really as I've spent hours trying to put what I've learned into practical use in my bathroom scene. I've removed the wall and substituted for p-solids as the shower glass, drawn the p-solids in positive and negative directions in case the normals got flipped, removed the windows, changed my camera view to outside the shower tile volume, made the shower part of a larger room, tried various material adjustments, turned the p-solids into surfaces, etc., etc.... I can't recreate this simple setup into a practical application for a real scene. Aside from all of this, I am excited to see the direction taken by Chief as pertains to their rendering engine. I'm finished! I think I'll pass on the new computer and turn off refraction for now. It's still much better than anyone else is able to do in this market and the customer just won't notice there's no refraction. Thanks for all the help today. Hope I didn't wear you out! Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, kwhitt said: Mick - I don't see your uploaded images, but thanks for confirming. Now that I've spent the whole day on this, what does it mean? Nothing really as I've spent hours trying to put what I've learned into practical use in my bathroom scene. I've removed the wall and substituted for p-solids as the shower glass, drawn the p-solids in positive and negative directions in case the normals got flipped, removed the windows, changed my camera view to outside the shower tile volume, made the shower part of a larger room, tried various material adjustments, turned the p-solids into surfaces, etc., etc.... I can't recreate this simple setup into a practical application for a real scene. Aside from all of this, I am excited to see the direction taken by Chief as pertains to their rendering engine. I'm finished! I think I'll pass on the new computer and turn off refraction for now. It's still much better than anyone else is able to do in this market and the customer just won't notice there's no refraction. Thanks for all the help today. Hope I didn't wear you out! Kevin You don't see 2 images in the post above yours with the RED Cylinder ? try this: https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/31348-pbr-w-realtime-ray-tracing-questions-in-x13/?do=findComment&comment=247266 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Speaking of computer specs.... Im still driving around in my Model T Alienware waiting till Black Friday/Cyber Monday for wheels and deals on computers since everyone is saying the prices are bloated right now. Ive been getting recommendations on several custom pc builders and the first thing I do is call tech support and see how long the wait time is and how the company handles customers. 75% of the places I called have HORRIBLE tech support/ customer service and Id never buy from them. Does anyone recommend any good places (price and good customer service) to get a pc ($3000 +/- ) desktop for X13? I still have a few months before upgrading the computer so Im still kicking tires. I already bought X13 but cant use it because the Model T doesnt run the new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitt Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Kbird1 said: You can see the Chevron wallpaper I used on the Wall, reflected on the Glass wall Camera side Yep, it's here this morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitt Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Designer1 said: Speaking of computer specs.... Im still driving around in my Model T Alienware waiting till Black Friday/Cyber Monday for wheels and deals on computers since everyone is saying the prices are bloated right now. Ive been getting recommendations on several custom pc builders and the first thing I do is call tech support and see how long the wait time is and how the company handles customers. 75% of the places I called have HORRIBLE tech support/ customer service and Id never buy from them. Does anyone recommend any good places (price and good customer service) to get a pc ($3000 +/- ) desktop for X13? I still have a few months before upgrading the computer so Im still kicking tires. I already bought X13 but cant use it because the Model T doesnt run the new stuff. Chad - I've been dealing with pugentsystems.com. They are currently 4 weeks out, but the customer service is great. Their prices are in line when I've compared. Geno is my contact there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 6 hours ago, kwhitt said: I've been dealing with pugentsystems.com. www.pugetsystems.com I believe MarkMc just got a new Desktop from AXADirect - contact Kyle he told me he recommends them, and has ordered a 2nd system from them too....... but I built my Own. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitt Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Kbird1 said: www.pugetsystems.com I believe MarkMc just got a new Desktop from AXADirect - contact Kyle he told me he and recommends them, but I built my Own. M. You are correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Thanks so much Mick and Kevin for the recommendations! I will check those out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkwest Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:06 AM, Designer1 said: Speaking of computer specs.... Im still driving around in my Model T Alienware waiting till Black Friday/Cyber Monday for wheels and deals on computers since everyone is saying the prices are bloated right now. Ive been getting recommendations on several custom pc builders and the first thing I do is call tech support and see how long the wait time is and how the company handles customers. 75% of the places I called have HORRIBLE tech support/ customer service and Id never buy from them. Does anyone recommend any good places (price and good customer service) to get a pc ($3000 +/- ) desktop for X13? I still have a few months before upgrading the computer so Im still kicking tires. I already bought X13 but cant use it because the Model T doesnt run the new stuff. Costco has a gaming computer for $3k that looks good. https://www.costco.com/msi-aegis-rs-gaming-desktop---10th-gen-intel-core-i9-10900k---geforce-rtx-3080.product.100719183.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 WOW! Thats one of the best deals Ive seen, thanks for the recommendation David! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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