robdyck Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Take a look at this insane mess of a wall connection! Curses what a waste of time dealing with this crap! It's an ICF grade beam connecting to an existing concrete basement wall. I want the concrete layers to align at the exterior...no overlap of materials as the new foundation will simply butt up against the old foundation...but Chief has other plans apparently. Plan View: 3D (all other views): I can change things by messing around with the wall connection tool...I just can't change things to be correct. How can something so simple be made so hard?? I'm inlcuding the ICF wall type if anyone wants to attempt a connection fix that works for all views! ICF 8.calibz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Robert... no time to futz with this this-morning, but tempting. Still I had a quick look at the wall def. and I have to wonder if it might help if you put the outer layer of foam on the Exterior layer instead of Main layer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Also, maybe put the inner layer of foam on the Interior layer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, robdyck said: I can change things I can already tell that your two pieces of bread are in the main layer with the tuna salad in the middle. Breads always gonna get soggy that way. Maybe you can separate them to the surface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Agh, MJ beat me to it...my joke's not as funny Unless their is a reason for having everything in the main layer for alignment on wall framing etc. I would reorganize the wall assembly as stated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, DzinEye said: Also, maybe put the inner layer of foam on the Interior layer... Just now, Renerabbitt said: I can already tell that your two pieces of bread are in the main layer with the tuna salad in the middle. Breads always gonna get soggy that way. Maybe you can separate them to the surface? Ha! Good one! I'll probably try that next. The reason they're part of the main layer...my foundation plan shows 'main layer only' so in plan view, I don't want to see stucco parging or drywall but I do want to see the ICF...and it's logical. ICF is unquestionably the "main layer' right? But I gotta play with the hand I'm dealt...I can turn my drywall line invisible so it doesn't show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, robdyck said: The reason they're part of the main layer...my foundation plan shows 'main layer only' so in plan view, I don't want to see stucco parging or drywall but I do want to see the ICF...and it's logical. ICF is unquestionably the "main layer' right? But I gotta play with the hand I'm dealt...I can turn my drywall line invisible so it doesn't show. Okay... so another way I could see it possibly working while leaving the foam in the main layer, would be for you to create a new wall definition for the rest of the 'normal' foundation which has X" of insulation air gap on both sides of the concrete to match the foam on the ICF wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said: I can already tell that your two pieces of bread are in the main layer with the tuna salad in the middle. Breads always gonna get soggy that way. Maybe you can separate them to the surface? lettuce see what happens...these are auto connections after the foam has been moved out of the main layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said: your two pieces of bread are in the main layer with the tuna salad in the middle I thought it was deviled ham in the middle... ;\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, robdyck said: Ha! Good one! I'll probably try that next. The reason they're part of the main layer...my foundation plan shows 'main layer only' so in plan view, I don't want to see stucco parging or drywall but I do want to see the ICF...and it's logical. ICF is unquestionably the "main layer' right? But I gotta play with the hand I'm dealt...I can turn my drywall line invisible so it doesn't show. For that layerset, designate the exterior and interior layers to follow line style of the layer. Turn the line style for walls to invisible for that layerset. Then override the middle layers to solid line. That way you can uncheck main layer only and still only see the main layers. Overlooking any fill styles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 And Plan View: Chief's Automatic: Adjustment #1: Adjustment #4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, robdyck said: main layer. Elevations don't align, is that by intent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Renerabbitt said: Elevations don't align, is that by intent? Yup. The top of sub-floor will align. Existing subfloor is 5/8" plwood & 2x10's....The new subfloor will be 3/4" OSB & 2x10's The existing concrete foundation is showing to the underside of existing floor joists whereas the new ICF foundation for the addition is 1. 5/8" lower for a bolted on sill plate plus the thicker floor sheathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, robdyck said: Yup You see my response about the main layer only debacle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Renerabbitt said: You see my response about the main layer only debacle ? I did....just gave a like to that post. That was a great tip! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, robdyck said: Chief's Automatic: That's actually not bad at all in my book of acceptability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 hours ago, robdyck said: lettuce see what happens... Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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