ACADuser Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Don't understand this one. I click on an exterior door and get the comp-1 list and the can click on interior door & get comp-2 listIs this normal?I change a line say for D3 comment and it is not shown in the other component list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Totally Normal !!!!!! The Component List is unique for each Door. Interior Doors are different than Exterior Doors so the list itself is different, just as the list for a Window is different than the list for a Cabinet, etc. Are you looking perhaps for a Door Schedule rather than the Component List for an Individual Door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a door schedule in the drawing. Just wanted to update/change the comment & other fields. Change comment for D3 on one list did not change the comment on the other list. D3 is D3 is D3 is it not? If it is local to itself the why is it displayed on the component list for D5 when I access it via D5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Just a little clarification. The Component List is for that particular Object and you can add or modify the data for that Object. If you subsequently copy the Object, the components will be copied as well. The data in the Components can be shown in columns of the Schedule (door Schedule for example) and you can create Custom Columns to match any lines you have in the Components List. This is a fairly complex thing to set up but for example: I have Sub Categories set up for my Doors (Hardware, Head, Jamb, Sill) and in my Door Schedule I have added those Columns. The Data in the Description Field of the Sub Categories shows up in my Door Schedule for those Columns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a door schedule in the drawing. Just wanted to update/change the comment & other fields. Change comment for D3 on one list did not change the comment on the other list. D3 is D3 is D3 is it not? If it is local to itself the why is it displayed on the component list for D5 when I access it via D5? NO, you misunderstand. D3 simply refers to Door Component #3 for the particular Door. It does not refer to Door #3 nor would it be the same for other Doors. Each Door is made up of various components. One of those is the Door itself. The "D" refers only to the fact that it's a part of the door. E is for Exterior Trim components and T is for Interior Trim Components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I wonder why we have to go through hoops just to add some notes to schedule items, it is a bit confusing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 If you want to change the Comment Column for a particular Door: 1. Open the Components List for that Door 2. Find the Line that contains the actual Door (it will have the size and description data) It might be D1, D2, D3 or D5 or D10 ...... 3. Edit the Comments Column of that Line. 4. That data will now show up in the Comments Column of the Door Schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yes, I did misunderstand. I see now but how to change the comment field in the Door Schedule to say "Solid Wood Core, steel frame" for doors D3 & D4 of which there are 6 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 OK you are ahead of me..... Looks like the Dx with the Leaf description is the one the change the comment field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yes, that field updated the schedule. Oh that was easy. Just needed some splainen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I wonder why we have to go through hoops just to add some notes to schedule items, it is a bit confusing? Custom Schedules require Custom Symbols that have those Sub Categories in their Components. This is basically why I rarely use any of Chief's standard OOB Symbols or Generic Doors, Windows, etc. The Custom Symbols that I have in my Library have all the appropriate Sub Categories with the Description Field, Manufacturer, etc filled in. It would be nice if Chief was set up so that adding Schedule Columns would automatically add those Sub Categories to the Objects and make those fields available in the Object dbx rather than the very cumbersome "Components" List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 OK, Got all my swing doors & bi-pass door comments in the table. One problem: One room requires a Barn Door or Exterior Sliding door. The Leaf is on the outside of the wall. I used a Door Opening with a Polyline rectangle for the leaf for plan view but that is not in the schedule. I have Door Style > Slab & Door type > Doorway & Include in Schedule checked but it is not in the schedule. any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Door Openings are probably not included in your Schedule. BTW, someplace in the forum is a thread where I posted a library of "Surface Sliding Doors". I don't know off hand what info is in the Components List for those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Found it, That solved that issue. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 It would be nice if Chief was set up so that adding Schedule Columns would automatically add those Sub Categories to the Objects and make those fields available in the Object dbx rather than the very cumbersome "Components" List. Amen. It would also be nice if we could edit the schedule text directly, which would update the component data without the need to track down the actual object within the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 That would be a more logical choice, for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 This sort of inter-relational editing has been requested before. Call Support and tell them you want it. Maybe we'll get it in XX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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