urwinenterprises Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Hello I am having a hard time with the roof. I have done a lot of research and all the examples on your site only shows a square or "L" shaped house. I was wondering if you could help in a few areas. 1. I need a roof peak to be in the center of a room due to the windows in the attic area, which the room has no ceiling. 2. On the rear porch for some odd reason the ceiling is not up to where it needs to be. 3. In the same general area I have a roof edge sticking out. I had to put a small hip there so the gable does not extend to the other side of the house. 4. How do you make eave from different roofs meet at a desired measurement, 16" is mine. I have attached an excel file and the Chief file. Thank you question.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 other file. I could not attach the excel file so I hope this picture is big enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 No Attachments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Sorry new to this site still learning..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Tha plan you shared currently has no roof planes but to try to answer your questions I have the following comments: 1. I need a roof peak to be in the center of a room due to the windows in the attic area, which the room has no ceiling. In order to have a symetric ridge between two baring walls, you make sure the ceiling heights of that space are the same height and that the roof pitches are set to the same pitch. 2. On the rear porch for some odd reason the ceiling is not up to where it needs to be. In your posted plan there is no porch 3. In the same general area I have a roof edge sticking out. I had to put a small hip there so the gable does not extend to the other side of the house. Since the plan you posted has no roofs, good or bad I cannot comment otherwise than to say that ceiling heights set in "Edit - Default Settings - Floor - Ceiling Height" and local room specification dialog box - Ceiling heights control whether roof eaves meet or not. 4. How do you make eave from different roofs meet at a desired measurement, 16" is mine. I answered this in #3 above already DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I do find that there are Roof Planes - but if I rebuild the Roof it's not the same. Obviously, you have edited the Roof Planes without matching points. The best way to create a Gable End, if you are going to rely on "Auto Roof" is to edit the Wall (Roof Tab) to specify that wall is a Gable End. That hasn't been done on your Plan so Rebuild Roof Planes gives much different results than you are looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Thank you DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 The Problem that I have with the auto roofs is that I get the wrong result. I have used the "Make roof base polylines". This has gotten me closer to the desired look. The attached picture is when I have removed the polylines and do the automatic build roof. Now in the picture I have the wall with the windows marked as a gable. Why does it go all the way across to the other roof instead of stopping at that the end of it's own wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Urwin: What are the spec's for this roof plan suppose to be? For example, what overhangs are you looking for? Why do you have roof baselines flapping out in the breeze? They are suppose to be over the outer main layers of bearing walls. Do you understand that when you mix roof pitches without changing something else, that the fascia tops will be at different elevations. Simple geometry says they will be different. Not sure what you are trying to accomplish with the roof planes for the small rear porch. Is this roof going to be manually framed (parts/all) or trusses? If you want to call me in a couple of hours, I will try to talk you through some of the roof editing needed on your model. I don't think it will take too much work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I played around with your plan and cleaned up the roof for you. Not sure what you are trying to do with that porch on the rear so I just deleted those small roof planes and extended the 6:12 roof planes out over the rear porch. I will leave the finishing touches for that area for you to do. I am not sure about the great room roof being buildable the way I changed it ... I just cleaned up the roof to make it look pretty. question.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Will this do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 As you can see from Jintu's images, there are two areas where you have short horizontal valleys that need correcting for drainage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Sorry out of the office today. CJSpud: I know there are somethings that are not correct as a final drawing I was trying to get the desired shape before bringing back in the eves. I have watched a bunch of videos on how to do roofs but they all seem to be on square or "L" shaped homes. I tried different methods when I saved it last. The thing is that I can change the roof but don't know how to patch the holes, if that makes since. The small porch on the back the home owner wanted a shorter porch roof so I was giving them a visual of what it would look like. I know the posts were not in the correct area because I was moving that roof all over the place. I know I had some drainage problem areas but that is where I really get into trouble, I just can not seem to fix the roofs when I start to move the roof planes around. Chiefer: YES!!! That is a much cleaner plan than I could ever come up with. Now the question to you both is how on earth do you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Now the question to you both is how on earth do you do that? I drew some roof planes manually and leave the auto-generated roofs as they were. I use a series of breaks to get the desired outcome like "patching holes." Plan enclosed. question jintu.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Jintu that looks great thank you for getting the result that I need, unfortunately for me I still do not understand the "patching holes". When I start doing that the roof looks like a Japanese cartoon hair piece. In post #8 I thought I broke the roof, but it stayed on the other side of the house. But I will try some of your suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 OK. Make the room behind the porch "no roof" then generate. Get rid of the polylines first. (there are two) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 so will doing that move the roof in the large room (on the right with the large windows) to that location, or is this for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Instead of having the roof like in post #8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Got it! see attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urwinenterprises Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 okay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution urwinenterprises Posted September 13, 2014 Author Solution Share Posted September 13, 2014 Thank you for your help I am sure you have more to do than give me a step by step instruction. You have helped me more than what I can find in the videos online. I am sure just like any program, this program has more ways to draw things in many ways to get the result, and PRACTICE!!! The more I mess with it the better I understand but I am not there yet. Thank you all for all your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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