rispgiu Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I am new to chief and this is my very first project. I suppose I should have started with something easier but everything has been pretty simple with the exception of the rounded roof over my porch. There is something coming through it. I delete the roof and rebuilt the roof several times, I changed the roof shingles but nothing seems to help. I think its a gutter because when I try and change the roof to other materials and try and change that object my gutters will change their color as well. I checked and my room has the gutter option unchecked. Any help or idea? Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javatom Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 You can check your theory by turning the gutter layer off in your camera view to see if it goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 Thank you, as I was posting I was thinking the same thing, I tried and its not it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, solver said: Posting your plan file will make it easier for someone to help. It helps if we know what title (Premier, Interiors) and version (X8, X9 etc) you are using. You can add this info to your signature by clicking on your user name at the top right of the page, click Account Settings, then Signature on the left. Doing so makes it always available, and this info is often key to providing a good suggestion Thx I just added to my profile as you suggested. I'll have to work on an actual signature I am using X9 Premiere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesVolz Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Zoom in and click on it. Then note what is selected in the bottom ribbon. It is probably a roof plane part (like a fascia) and probably due to the roof planes not joining properly. After you select the roof plane, open it go to the materials and change the color of the fascia for that roof plane to red or something and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 It maybe a Fascia Board if all the Roof Planes are not Connected properly at each facet of the round , letting it "pop out" best idea is to post a copy of the plan though in these cases.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, CharlesVolz said: Zoom in and click on it. Then note what is selected in the bottom ribbon. It is probably a roof plane part (like a fascia) and probably due to the roof planes not joining properly. After you select the roof plane, open it go to the materials and change the color of the fascia for that roof plane to red or something and see what happens. I did as you suggested. It is a fascia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Kbird1 said: It maybe a Fascia Board if all the Roof Planes are not Connected properly at each facet of the round , letting it "pop out" best idea is to post a copy of the plan though in these cases.... How do I post the plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, rispgiu said: How do I post the plan? close the Plan in CA X9 1st and then you can just drag and drop the Plan file right into the bottom of the Reply window where it is light grey. saving a copy to your desktop 1st ,with a slightly different name , is maybe the easiest way to do that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 Here it is. Thank you Bella_storia_high_ceiling__copy.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 Also, any other suggestions or ideas are greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 it is a gutter ...... turn off roof planes in the 3D view to see it ....see below.... and you need to re-join the roof planes on the RH side of the round..... I Need to dig a bit deeper to find out which roof plane it is that is causing it.... ***EDIT.....OK I found that you have maybe 10-12 little Roof planes at the Apex which you need to delete.... I would make both the Dutch Gables the same size as well , ie match the house one to the garage one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 35 minutes ago, solver said: That's a rather awkward looking roof. How about this? Needs the returns and clipped gable on the left and some more cleanup around the edges. I like it thank you for the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 46 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: it is a gutter ...... turn off roof planes in the 3D view to see it ....see below.... and you need to re-join the roof planes on the RH side of the round..... I Need to dig a bit deeper to find out which roof plane it is that is causing it.... ***EDIT.....OK I found that you have maybe 10-12 little Roof planes at the Apex which you need to delete.... I would make both the Dutch Gables the same size as well , ie match the house one to the garage one.... Thank you for your reply, this really helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 I think I got it. Check it out. Bella_storia_high_ceiling__copy.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 22 minutes ago, rispgiu said: I like it thank you for the idea. your roof on the living room looks way nicer, straighter than what I did. How did you do it? as I said, I am new I have only used this software for about 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Looks like you got it I agree with Eric , the Roof looks a bit strange.... looking from the Front or Curb view ......the added advantage of the "Cricket" he shows is that it will help slow the water down during heavy rainfall , so the small gutter at the bottom is not overwhelmed ...that is a large piece of Roof, coming down into a small 2' foot Gutter and it is right at the front door , so you don't want it overflowing. you will likely need to use manual roof planes to change it around..... you seem to be using a old Buechel Stone library I don't have that in my Library.... or maybe i have the old one? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Thank you for your 1 minute ago, Kbird1 said: Looks like you got it I agree with Eric , the Roof looks a bit strange.... looking from the Front or Curb view ......the added advantage of the "Cricket" he shows is that it will help slow the water down during heavy rainfall , so the small gutter at the bottom is not overwhelmed ...that is a large piece of Roof, coming down into a small 2' foot Gutter and it is right and the front door , so you don't want it overflowing. you will likely need to use manual roof planes to change it around..... you seem to be using a old Buechel Stone library I don't have that in my Library.... or maybe i have the old one? M. Thank you for your reply about the roof. I will try and work on it on how to fix it. About the stone, it says it was copyrighted in 2016. Is it the old one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Sounds like you have the X8-2017 Library , I may have the X9-2018 one? both are free , Maybe Buechel updated their catalogue to currently sold products?...... https://3dlibrary.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?r=site/detail/1020 actually it maybe related to the fact you "painted" the stone on instead of changing the material to that stone in the Pony Walls Definition ? as it says it should be red brick ...once I changed the ponywall to the correct material it turned up okay in 3D views , but you will also need to change the ponywall to the 6" type , as there is a 6" wall above a 4" wall now and you can see the issue that causes in the garage by the door. one other small quirk in CA you likely don't know is you MUST have an interior Casing , even of garage doors in the DBX (dialog box) normally if you don't want a casing set all the sizes to 1/16th inch or the Door Jamb and Casing don't show properly in 3D.....(looks like it flickers or is too thin/see through) BTW either the garage floor is set too low at -26" or the Terrain is too high as your Drive way is cutting into the Garage doors about 6" up the door... easily seen from inside the garage if you set the main door to show open in 3D M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: Sounds like you have the X8-2017 Library , I may have the X9-2018 one? both are free , Maybe Buechel updated their catalogue to currently sold products?...... https://3dlibrary.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?r=site/detail/1020 actually it maybe related to the fact you "painted" the stone on instead of changing the material to that stone in the Pony Walls Definition ? as it says it should be red brick ...once I changed the ponywall to the correct material it turned up okay in 3D views , but you will also need to change the ponywall to the 6" type , as there is a 6" wall above a 4" wall now and you can see the issue that causes in the garage by the door. one other small quirk in CA you likely don't know is you MUST have an interior Casing , even of garage doors in the DBX (dialog box) normally if you don't want a casing set all the sizes to 1/16th inch or the Door Jamb and Casing don't show properly in 3D.....(looks like it flickers or is too thin/see through) BTW either the garage floor is set too low at -26" or the Terrain is too high as your Drive way is cutting into the Garage doors about 6" up the door... easily seen from inside the garage if you set the main door to show open in 3D M. Thank you very much for the input, I truly appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 might be worth watching to if manual roof planes are new to you.... https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/25/drawing-roofs-manually.html https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/724/joining-roof-planes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, rispgiu said: 4 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: Sounds like you have the X8-2017 Library , I may have the X9-2018 one? both are free , Maybe Buechel updated their catalogue to currently sold products?...... https://3dlibrary.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?r=site/detail/1020 actually it maybe related to the fact you "painted" the stone on instead of changing the material to that stone in the Pony Walls Definition ? as it says it should be red brick ...once I changed the ponywall to the correct material it turned up okay in 3D views , but you will also need to change the ponywall to the 6" type , as there is a 6" wall above a 4" wall now and you can see the issue that causes in the garage by the door. one other small quirk in CA you likely don't know is you MUST have an interior Casing , even of garage doors in the DBX (dialog box) normally if you don't want a casing set all the sizes to 1/16th inch or the Door Jamb and Casing don't show properly in 3D.....(looks like it flickers or is too thin/see through) BTW either the garage floor is set too low at -26" or the Terrain is too high as your Drive way is cutting into the Garage doors about 6" up the door... easily seen from inside the garage if you set the main door to show open in 3D M. About the wall, if I change the lower portion of the pony wall to stone front it adds concrete blocks to the back of the stone. Is this normal? I was wondering about the terrain, something didn't seem right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: might be worth watching to if manual roof planes are new to you.... https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/25/drawing-roofs-manually.html https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/724/joining-roof-planes.html This will definitely help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 6 hours ago, rispgiu said: sound like you just choose the wrong wall type for the lower part of the pony wall ...try Brick-6 and change the brick to the Grey Ledgestone.... select the terrain and open it and uncheck automatic height and set your own say 28" since floor is -26 in the garage ... the terrain DBX assumes automatically a negative value since the main floor height is 0"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rispgiu Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 54 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: sound like you just choose the wrong wall type for the lower part of the pony wall ...try Birck-6 and change the brick to the Grey Ledgestone.... select the terrain and open it and uncheck automatic height and set your own say 28" since floor is -26 in the garage ... the terrain DBX assumes automatically a negative value since the main floor height is 0"... Got it, thx. I am still struggling with the roof. I am looking at tutorials and trying various things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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