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Trying to create a rough draft for a client doing a barn to home conversion. The garage in the basement. I'm trying to place a set of stairs in the basement to the main level, under the stairs to the upper level. the problem is every time I create the stairwell opening I lose my ceiling on the main floor. Can anyone help me figure out why? Oxford St.zip 

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Your plan file is zero bytes. Be sure to close the plan before uploading, or use File>Backup Entire Plan.

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I'm not in the office Ill try and upload the plans again when I get back. As for the floors the basement is a foundation level.

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The area shown in pink is being called out as "Open Below". The program is doing what you told it to do. If you want less of an open stairwell you need to put in more walls to define that space. I am seeing the ceiling on the level at the top of the stairs. If you are not seeing a ceiling (or anything) you are probably using a "Floor Camera" instead of a "Full Camera".

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The lower staircase, when I open that one the ceiling becomes unfinished.

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Just draw a cad box and convert it to a Hole in Floor Platform. This avoids any problems associated with creating an Open Below room.

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57 minutes ago, rlackore said:

Just draw a cad box and convert it to a Hole in Floor Platform. This avoids any problems associated with creating an Open Below room.

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I never use that feature.....  because I don't think of using it?  

 

Is there a downside to using the hole?  Come on Racklamore,  there must be a downside.  Have I been creating rooms all this time which sometimes can be a pain?   Do stairs connect to the hole.....  there must be a downside.

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Aha.....  you do not get the railing.....  you do not get the stair rail to connect to the railing around the hole......... 59654b418490e_ScreenShot2017-07-11at3_03_35PM.thumb.png.d4f59a135cbf5147198f40b0b244a1f6.png

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15 hours ago, dshall said:

Aha.....  you do not get the railing.....  you do not get the stair rail to connect to the railing around the hole......... 

 

Seems fine to me:

 

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33 minutes ago, rlackore said:

 

Seems fine to me:

 

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Did you build the railings out of walls and if so,  what was the point of using the hole in the floor?

 

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Yes, the floor railings are no-roomdef railing walls. The stair railings are stair railings. The point of the floor hole is that, for some reason, creating a room around the stair opening removes the first floor ceiling finish, and I'm not smart enough to figure out why or how to prevent it.

 

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The horse stall behind the stairs has a shelf ceiling. the first solution I found was I to make the walls full height, which was not what I wanted in the design. not sure why but the problem seemed to be connected to the shelf ceiling. 

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1 hour ago, rlackore said:

.... The point of the floor hole is that, for some reason, creating a room around the stair opening removes the first floor ceiling finish..........

 

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I would be interested in seeing a plan with that issue.  I am not sure if I have seen that before.

 

See pic,  I put hole in floor using rails and open to below and I did not lose the ceiling finish.

 

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Just now, dshall said:

See pic,  I put hole in floor using rails and open to below and I did not lose the ceiling finish.

 

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Well, I couldn't make that happen, no matter what I tried. Maybe your Macintosh has the magic mojo. As the OP mentioned, maybe the shelf ceiling has something to do with it. Using the original plan, with an open below room for the stair, I lose the ceiling finish, but it returns after I remove the shelf ceiling.

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This looks like a bug to me.  I would report this to tech support and see what they have to say.

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