Joe_Carrick

Only a few Chief Objects have the "Add to Library As" button:

Doors -> Door or Doorway

Cabinets -> Cabinet Modules or Cabinet Doors/Drawers

I'm not sure what else - maybe the help file will say.  OK, I just checked and those are the only 2 listed.  Basically it says that where a Chief Object has other symbols inserted - you can Add either the entire Object or just the extra inserted object.

The way this works for example is that you can select a cabinet and save as "Cabinet Doors/Drawers" and what you have in the Library can be used as a Door or Drawer Front on other Cabinets instead of being the Cabinet itself (which is the default if you just use the "Add to Library" button.)

Also, I don't seem to have access to the custom backsplash tool ... it is grayed out.  I need to figure out why that is!

Curt,

You have to be in a 3D View to use that tool.

Ha! funny man. I guess you aren't buying the stucco.

 

Stucco is lucky if you get 5/8, here well specify :

STUCCO NOTE : ALL REFERENCES TO "STUCCO" ON THESE PRINTS SHALL BE

INTERPRETED AS MEANING "DECORATIVE CEMENTIOUS  FINISH" , SHALL BE

LESS THAN 5/8" IN THICKNESS AND COMPLY WITH ASTM C 926 &  ASTM C 1063

 

And all dimensions are to outside of block so stucco is ignored for dimensions & at typical 3/8" is not worth showing.

Just my take.

Here in California stucco is 1" with a waterproof membrane and wire lath but whatever the thickness, Chief expects there to be a surface exterior layer - outside of the main layer - which is why I suggested that you modify your Wall Definition.

When you want the Gable End to be wood framed - add a short (1/16" tall) 2nd floor with wood walls.  That will stop the CMU at the ceiling and everything above will be wood framed.

This is a case where you need to use a "Custom Backsplash".  It's on the Cabinet Dropdown Menu.

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I have the same problem with my 8" stucco wall.

I think you have a problem with your Wall Definition.  You indicate the exterior material is stucco but it's 7-5/8" thick and evidently you want to use CMU with a stucco coating on the exterior.

You should add an exterior layer to the wall definition. 

1" Stucco

7-5/8" CMU

3/4" Air Gap

1/2" Drywall

Make Layer 2 the Main Layer

Amazing stuff!!!!!!!

Scott,

I used a Custom Counter Top.  That's easier to control the Layer, Color, Linestyle & Weight.

Linestyle by Layer Control.

Now, if we could just set the Layer for the Label to the same Layer as the Symbol................

Then we could have Notes for not just Plan Views but for Elevations, Sections, etc.

I agree, moving the Hood was just so I could see the Cooktop in Plan View.

Ahhh......

The problem was that the cabinet was only 36" wide and the Cooktop was also 36" wide.  By creating a long custom counter top the cooktop inserts into the wider counter just fine.  You probably want to make the cabinet wider by a couple of inches if you can.

Todd,  I'm not sure exactly what's going on but try this:

1.  Move the hood out of the way

2.  Create a custom counter top

3.  Place the Cooktop

4.  Move the hood back

That seems to solve the problem

So let me see if I understand what you did. You took my symbol and added a custom countertop and placed a hole for the cooktop, then made it a symbol together and now it should insert to a cabinet correctly? Then I will only need to change the color of the top.

That's correct.  Insert into Countertop cuts a rectangular hole the same size as the Symbol.  So if your symbol isn't a perfect rectangle, you need the Counter Top to be a part of the Symbol.

BTW Todd,  This Symbol has almost 20,000 faces.  That makes it what we commonly call a "PolyHog" and if you get too many of faces in a model it can slow down Pan & Zoom and maybe Ray Tracing as well.  A few of these isn't too bad but just be careful.

OK Todd,  I added a Custom Counter Top to your Symbol (a full rectangle with a hole in it so the lower part of Cooktop around the burners would be recessed.  Then I created a new symbol from it.  You will note in the pic that the Counter Top of the new symbol is just a light beige.  When you put it in a Cabinet you need to paint or edit that to match your Counter.

CooktopGas-Todd's.calibz

Another option would be to ignore "inserting into counter top" and just deal with the z-origin.  Just set it down far enough that it still sits high enough to obscure the counter top.

BTW, usually a symbol that is designed to insert into a counter top should have a rectangular solid just slightly larger than the object to act as an "Inserted Counter" and it should have a material designation of "Counter Top" so you can adjust the material.

Thanks that worked, but how do I get access to adjust the counter top? After lowering the cooktop the cut hole is now a triangle rather than a rectangle.

Todd,  Can you export your Symbol and post that file (calibz)?  I will take a look and see what I can do with it.

Ok, it will insert, but how do I get it to sit into the cut opening that was created and can I reduce the hole slightly?

Todd,  Adjust the z-origin value in the 3D Tab of the Symbol dbx to move it up or down.  There is also a set of values for sizing that should adjust the hole size.

Also, after it's in the Library, Right_Click and open the Symbol dbx.  You to change the settings.for the behavior there.

Open the Defaults for Doors in your Plan.  See what the setting is there.  It's possible that it's not right.  I don't know of any thing else that could cause this problem.

Phyllis,

I think the program you remember was PCAD.  They were based in (or near) San Jose.  It did run on the Apple (Macintosh I think, but maybe the Apple II+).  I was working as the Architectural Product Manager for CalComp at the time and we almost bought that Company.  My recollection was that it was strictly 2D but we were interested because of the Apple context.

This is a nice to fair hack but I actually use plants in my drawings. I would need to remove all plants from my construction documents to get the schedule to work with only the notes items. Or, is there another way to filter out the plants from the schedule other than by floor?

Alan,

Group select all your actual Plants and uncheck "Include in Schedule".  The "Notes Plants" you put on a Layer of their own so you can turn them on/off for display purposes.

Perry,

I've been thinking about the "Framing, Electrical, etc" notes concept.  It's fairly simple from the standpoint of the notes displayed on any given Layer Set (just have the "Note" on a unique layer for that use) but the Plan Schedule itself can only be limited on a per floor basis.  The Fixture Schedule OTOH has more flexibility in that regard but is probably limited in terms of Layer being saved in the Library. 

If you use multiple Plant Schedules (per floor) but use a prefix such as A1-, A2-,A3-, etc for Architectural Notes, F1-, F2-,F3-, etc for Framing Notes, E1-, E2-,E3-, etc for Electrical Notes then you could send the same Schedule to the Sheets for the various dwgs and simply crop them as needed to limit whats displayed.  It would mean providing a Border and Header for each Layout Box, but at least the notes would be arranged the way you want them.

Can you follow this - it's a bit complicated to explain.  Naturally, the various notes would need to be on the appropriate unique Layers so they would only be displayed in the Layerset that matches.

The Ultimate Solution would be to have Callouts with Schedules that can be filtered by Layer or?????