Joe_Carrick

I made the poly solid and set it to air gap material. When I go to move them, if I accidentally resize the object all the component data is lost. Do you have your note item object locked for shape somehow?

Yes, I set Stretch Planes at 2" for all 3 axis (x,y,z)

 

I just checked this and it doesn't prevent the loss of the Comments Field Data.  IMO that's a bug that Chief needs to fix anyway.  The way to handle this is to just "UNDO" if you accidently resize.

Nice job Joe.  Really nice job.  I think the only problem is if the note is a long note,  if I am not mistaken,  the schedule does not allow for WRAP AROUND/MULTIPLE LINES.  Is this correct?

 

This is a great solution with the only limitation of a long note.

Yep, that's the one limitation.  CA should make that change to schedules to that we have word wrap.

IAE, I can have a pretty long note and the schedule will still fit on a Layout Sheet using Arch-D or Arch-E.  Those are the only sheet sizes I normally use anyway.

There are some nice details about how this works:

 

1.  When you change the Description and Comments fields in the Components dbx for a Symbol, the Callout Number and the Comments Column in the Schedule are both updated.

2.  If you move a row in the Schedule up or down, the Callout Text changes accordingly.

3.  If you open the Object dbx the Name will show the Description Field data (which tells you what the note is)

4.  If you add any note in the Plan to the Library, the Name in the Library will correspond to the text of the note.  Organize those in the Library and you have a set of very easy to place notes in the Plan and the contents of the note will be displayed while you place and drag.

The following describes a system for creating General Notes with Callouts:

Since I don't use Furniture Schedules, I used a Furniture Schedule for the basis of this but I could have used the Plant Schedule or .....

1. The Schedule has Columns for Number and Comments - renamed Note # and Description
2. The Schedule has Use Callout for Label and Group Simlar Items checked
3. I created a small Furniture Symbol (solid box 1"x1"x1") and set its material to Insulation-Air Gap
4. I named the Symbol Note
5. In the Components dbx I set the Description and Comments both to Note Text
6. I then placed several these in the Plan - some of them I edited the Description and Comments Fields (used the same text for both fields)

The attached pics show the results:

Copy Chief's Library object and Paste to your user Library.  You can right click on it in the User Library and Edit it there.  CA doesn't allow us to make those edits in their Libraries but we can edit a copy that's in our User Library.

Cheryl,

 

I would - but since this can be done once and the Cabinet "Added" to the user Library - It's very low on my priority list. 

 

IOW, once you've created such a cabinet and added it to the library It never has to be done again.  It's just like having a Cabinet with a set of Appliances already defined and saved for future use.

Exactly what Mark said.  But you will have to add the Handle - unless it's a part of the Door Symbol that you get from the Library.

Scott,

It depends on what Symbol Classification you use.

1. Appliance - will not stretch in the horizontal (x) direction
2. Cabinet Drawer - will stretch with up to 3 stretch planes but the handle has to be None and the drawer itself will still be a part of the cabinet
3. Cabinet Door - will stretch with up to 3 stretch planes but the Door has to be changed to a Door Panel to eliminate the opening indicators & hardware.

I think the best of the solutions is the Cabinet Door - but it does take a bit of extra work (just changing it to a Door Panel.

 

OTOH, if you use Appliance you have to have the exact number of bays and the width must match the Cabinet Opening - requires more than 1 symbol to accommodate different width cabinets.

Dennis indicated that it doesn't work when "Closing Chief".  I guess that's when I usually get the message.  Evidenlty it works if you're just closing the Plan but keeping Chief open.

That message just indicates that you have a lot of Archive Files which may be taking up a lot of disk space.  Supposedly answering "Yes" will open the folder in "Windows Explorer" and allow you to delete some or all of them.  I say supposedly because it usually doesn't work.  So, if you want to clean it up - just open Windows Explorer and navigate to the Archive Folder and do the maintenance that way.

Cheryl,

I created a Symbol that inserts into a Cabinet as an Appliance but I'm not sure if this is exactly what you want it to look like.

If you post a pic of the typical (maybe with some dims) I can refine it and post the actual symbol.  I kind of assume that you wouldn't really want a Box - probably just a number of dividers (maybe 1/2" thick and 22" deep) spaced to fit within a standard cabinet width.  Since the symbol won't stretch in width it will be necessary to create a separate symbol for different width cabinets.  Let me know what works for you and I'll do it.

 

Maybe something like this

Very nice Mr Trout!

 

Furniture is of course a natural using the Cabinet Tool.  As cool as it is, if there's another Tool that will do the job even better then I'll use the better tool - but I still try to take a careful look.  Sometimes the ability to get the right 3D model is just too good.  Then if needed that can be converted to a symbol of exactly the right classification.

Scott,  Generally you would chose the one that is most closely related to the desired use.  I once did a matrix of all the categories and what options were available - I'll try to find it but it was in the old forum and it's been a few years.

Amazing,  my buddy the bridge troll seems to be the only one that remembers.

 

It's a Railing Wall

 

Specifically a Post to Beam Panel Railing with a Door.  The Beam material is Stucco and the other components (millwork symbols) are shown in this picture.

Now Michael,

 

I totally remember how to do it.  I'm just trying to get some of the new kids to scratch their heads in wonder. 

Joe,

I believe this was done to illustrate a commercial store front. It was a while back.

 

Have a great  week,Ken

Yes, that's what it represents.  The question is "How did I create it?"

Some of you may remember this - but for the new users:

 

What is this & how was it done in Chief?

Scott's too busy taking Golf Lessons

FWIW,

 

There have been numerous request for Stair Enhancements.

 

These have included all of what's been discussed in this thread and more:

 

Break Lines with the dashed lines vs solid lines

Fill vs No Fill

Railings shown over the Stairs in Plan

Solid Nosings with Dashed Risers

Variance in Stair Widths within a single run.

More flexibility in the design and control of handrails

Make the Total Height of a Stair be from Floor to Floor instead of Floor to top Tread Surface

etc.

 

The reality that I learned early in my career as an Architect is that stairs are one of the most difficult things to design and detail.  I'm not that surprised that CA's not eager to undertake a major modification to the Stairs.  It's a daunting list and the matrix is already so complex that figuring out how to add functionality without breaking something that currently works (at least fairly well) would be a big worry.

I think Perry meant that you can set the cross-section camera to display as a callout, then check the box in the dbx to display on all floors.

Yes, that's what I said in Post #2.  But you can't dimension to a cross section line.  There are pro's and con's with either method.  CA could/should provide us with the option to display the Callout on all Floors - or maybe just add a "Reference Grid Line" Tool. 

Just use a callout, put them on their own layer and in the callout DBX, select "Display on all floors"

Cool tip. I never really thought of the Callout as being usable this way. I can dimension to it - but I can't find where it can be displayed on all floors.

Joey,

 

If you create Back Clipped Cross Sections, the camera callouts can be displayed on all floors.  But I don't think you can dimension to those.  The other option is to create the "Reference" or "Grid" Lines on one Floor and then "Copy" - "Paste - Hold Position" from one floor to the next.

Ahhhh.........

 

Using them for Roofs is pretty cool.  You can even do skylights and cutouts in the edge of a roof plane.

I use all three all the time,  union,  intersection and subtraction.  i use the for terrain tool,  roofs,  and probably many  more things I cannot think of right now.

Roofs?  How do you use them for that?  I think we need a video.

That is correct Joe. Sorry, I wasn't really thinking the tools had different names for 2D vs. 3D work, but you're right.

I think it's a bit strange.  We have the boolean operations tools for Polylines, Polyline Solids, & Solids but none of them work together even though the same icons are used.

We also have Blocking Operations for CAD Blocks, Architectural Blocks, & Mulling Windows all of which are very similar and the icons are only different colors.