Joe_Carrick

Add the Half Wall, Railing Wall, Shower Wall, Custom Cabinet, Window, Door, etc ....... to the Library.  Now it's available for every Plan - exactly as you defined the first one.  It's more than just the Wall Type or a Default Cabinet - it's customized objects.  All the details are preserved to be reused whenever needed.

This is a tool that everyone should learn to use because it essentially does what's being asked for - Repeatable Complex Object Definitions.

Michael,

Select the 4" wall in your Plan, "Add to Library" (assuming that you don't already have that wall in the Library), Select the Library wall & draw over the 6" wall.  Voila!

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The rest are probably saying NO - but are trying to do so politely

Tools > Space Planning in X6 is standard.  It's been there at least as far back as version 9 - at least that's what I recall.

I tried it once or twice and decided that I'm more comfortable just drawing the walls.  I haven't used it for at least 6 years.

I started to respond,  but decided not to,  yeah JC,  I see it as you do.  Does not get any better or flexible than the existing system of layer defines line characteristics.

Note:  I have the Layer Eyedropper, Layer Painter, & Layer Hider Buttons on my Toolbar.  It's really easy to use them and works pretty much like "Match Properties" tool in ACAD.

OK, I guess it's time for me to chip in.

IMNSHO, Scott has it right. To simplify that statement:

1. The Layer has Linestyle, Color, Thickness & Text Style (Those are the only Properties available in Chief)
2. Edit the Layer of an Object and all of those properties change.
3. Each Layer Set can have different settings for each Layer, so it's infinitely flexible.

It is of course possible to over-ride the Layer Settings for any object, but it's really better to stay with Use Layer so that you take advantage of #3 above.

Bottom Line: Select the Objects and Edit the Layer - that's as good as it gets!

Curt,

If you save that light to the user library after making the fill transparent - does it come in as transparent when you select and place it from the user library?

Yes, of course it does.  The problem is that we can't edit the symbols except in the User Library or in the Plan, so anything from Chief's Libraries have solid fill and you have to either modify the Text Style or select a different Text Style.

I think it's because it was created in an earlier version and the materials simply didn't come into X6 when I imported the symbol.  I edited all the materials and now it looks OK.  IAE, the size doesn't match what I have at HD and Lowes,

Use a Room Polyline - edited to match the area that will be covered with flooring.

Tommy used a Doorway - I used a Window Pass-Thru.  I haven't been able to get Tommy's to display as anything but black - don't know why.

The easiest way to do this - IMO - is "replace from library".  That gives you options

I use a Rectangular Symbol (just a Flat Box) with a macro displaying the (width x depth)/144 as the Label.  Generally, I have this with a Transparent Fill but you can use any hatch pattern.

The only problem with this is that it has to be a rectangle.  OTOH, it does dynamically update as you stretch it.

Yes,  you need a TEXT BOX with an arrow pointing to the polyline......  however.... when you have multiple boxes on top of each other, this method is not reliable.....  the arrow can very easily get confused as to which POLYLINE it is associated with.

 

It is very important that we can trust the area of the polyline.  As of now,  I do not trust the area of the pollylines.

Very true.  To use this reliably you can't have an arrow pointing to a location where there are two or more coincident lines.  Sorry about the multi syllables Scott.

Closed Polylines have a Ruby attribute "area" which can be used in a reference macro.  You will need to have a Text Box with an arrow pointing to the Polyline.- it's really that simple.

Not bad - not perfect but it works.

Here is another Version of the Symbol. This one auto-magicly creates a pass thru for you - but you might have to adjust the height above the floor.

In addition, if it is on the wrong side of the wall, you would need to rotate the symbol about the z axis and adjust the y origin (both of those edits would be in the general tab of the symbol dbx.

In the Pass-Thru Window dbx, suppress the Frame.

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Thanks JC,  very nice.  Hopefully with X7 we will be able to provide niches.  OTH,  not too tough with the symbol you provided.  Hope the back is better.

Niches should be fairly simple - CA could use their subroutines for "Wall Material Region" to cut holes in the wall layers as thick as the niche recess.  It might require a new Symbol Class or it could just be a flag and y-origin adjustment.  

IAE, I agree that this feature is long overdue.

My back is better - I got a cortisone injection for a pulled muscle.  Still some pain but not too bad.

Without the Plan nobody can answer your question.

Hi Cheryl,

Sorry I got tied up and forgot about this. Here's a symbol that should work for you. It's set to mount on a wall 42" above the floor but you will need to provide an 8"x 6" pass-thru window at 42" above the floor and move the symbol 3-7/8" into the opening.

If the wall is exposed on the opposite side you will need to put a Solid into the Pass-Thru on that side to fill the hole in the wall finish material.

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There are also several on 3D Warehouse but nothing exactly like yoiur pic.  The solid door on the left side in your pic seems to be unique. 

Try downloading the Jenn-Aire catalog.  I think Sears uses the Jenn-Aire range with their own label.

This is what Heather asked for: I used (as Scott properly suggested) 2 cabinets. I Blocked them together and specified in the Block dbx that they should be treated as a single cabinet. If the Cabinet Schedule includes "other" then the cabinet will show in the Schedule.

If you want to change the Description in the Cabinet Schedule - just open the Block's Component dbx and edit it there.

You should learn how to make you own symbols within Chief or with Sketchup (I prefer Chief myself - others prefer Sketchup).  As an alternative, you can download symbols form other sources including 3DWarehouse.

There will always be some symbols that aren't in the Chief Libraries - but you can add as many to the User Library as you want.  I currently at least a couple of thousand - which I've organized in sub-folders.  That's one of the great things about Chief - you can add and customize to the way you work and what you need.

Lew,

 

Would you prefer that a Script allows you to place that cabinet - then opens the dbx and makes all those same changes - or, requires you to specify what you want?  Either way, it's more work than just selecting the desired cabinet pre-configured from the Library and placing it in the Plan.

 

 it's more work than just selecting the desired cabinet pre-configured from the Library and placing it in the Plan.

 

Joe:

 

I could have a script that creates the cabinet as desired

 

and a script that places it

 

or it could be all in one script

 

Lew

Or, you could be SMART and use the superb method that Chief has provided.

Lew,

Would you prefer that a Script allows you to place that cabinet - then opens the dbx and makes all those same changes - or, requires you to specify what you want?  Either way, it's more work than just selecting the desired cabinet pre-configured from the Library and placing it in the Plan.