Joe_Carrick

2 hours ago, SHCanada2 said:

And if they let us write to text macros, then joe could just read his text file and write to the text macro contents

That's essentially what I'm doing.

I have macros that read/wright my text files.

When I read one I assign the $Global variables wihich are then used in text boxes.

My purpose with these objects is to allow them to match any cabinet style as well as to allow any appropriate manufacturer's appliance.  The object is a cabinet (excluded from the schedule) and the appliances are included as accessories which show in the fixture schedule.

Hi Kelly,

I fully understand and didn't mean to denigrate Tyler's comment.  It's just that I've been asking for this tool to be expanded and made more comprhensive for many years.  Sometimes the flashy new features added to Chief seem to cause to much delay in fixing longstanding problems.

I've been frustrated in the past that there were no such items in the library which could be edited to have front's that matched the cabinets. ie:\

• Door/Drawer Styles
• Colors
• Hardware (Pulls, etc)

So I created some symbols 

• Dishwasher (24" KitchenAid)
• Undercounter Refrigerator (24" KitchenAid)
• Trash Compactor (15" Jenn-Air)

 They will show up in the Fixture Schedule as Appliances

Library is attached

These can be fully edited - including the embeded appliance details

I'm investigating adding making a similar symbol for Full Height Panel Ready Refrigerators.  I suspect it will be very generic to handle any combination of doors and drawers.

Panel Ready Cabinets.calibz

In my experience PDFs of less than 200 are adequate.  

Even better if you can generate a PNG to use in lieu of a PDF the performance will be way better.  I would only use a PDF if there was a need for the editing capabilities of that format.

1 hour ago, ChiefTylerL said:

Thank you for taking the time to clarify and create the image above!

 

I have gone ahead and passed this request onto our development team. 

Interesting....

There have been several previous requests with basically the same ideas.  2 years ago at the UGM this was discussed in the Advanced II room and almost every user expressed that it was needed.

2 minutes ago, DBCooper said:

Maybe you should post this in suggestions?

 

I've already sent the suggestion into Chief.  It's recorded in their database. 

I've requested additions to this tool many times.

Currently I have a series of text files which I can edit with NotePad++ and then use macros to read them into $Global variables.

• Energy Consultant Info
• Geologist Info
• Surveyor Info
• Engineer Info
• Builder Info
• Project Info

It would be far better if Chief would simply allow us to add user defined Information classes & fields.  It should be pretty easy to do.

When an Undercounter Appliance is added at the end of a bank of cabinets and the countertop is automatically added there should IMO be a partition added at the new open end.  Otherwise the Countertop has no support.

Obviously we can add one ourselves but I think it should be automatic or at the very least be an option with a prompt.

It would have to be in a macro accessing a roof plane. (Roof Label or Roof Plane Schedule)

This requires a more sophisticated approach than just a text box. - but might work if the text box has an arrow connected to a roof plane.

Most of the Core Library undercounter appliances don't currenty work properly.  They don't display flush with the cabinet fronts and many don't add a panel if at the end of a cabinet run.

I've reported this to Chief. 

It appears all of the Manufacturer Libraries are properly updated but some items may have been missed.

2 minutes ago, ACADuser said:

Thanks Joe.

BTW what insulation type & R value are you using for roof plane?

Usually SIPs.  R value depends on the energy calcs which can require a thicker SIP.

Here in California with the wildfire problems I like to design "Unvented Attics".  

Basically that means the roof is the thermal barrier and there are a couple of additional code requirements.  See IRC/CRC R806.5.

Typically I would use an HRS (Heat Recovery System) for energy conservation - this actually requires an unvented attic.

You could use the:

• projected_overhang_area

NVP's for each roof plane to determine the amount of soffit vents.

Of course with a gable end roof plane that might not be 100% accurate since you would only want soffit vents at the eave and not at the rake.

X17 has many new options for symbols.  For DW's, TC's, and similar appliances the following can be used:

• Appliances (built-in base cabinets)
• Appliances (under wall cabinets)
• Appliances (undercounter) 

If you have any such items in a "Place Library Object" toolbar button you can find the object in your library and edit the Options to make it function properly.  Most - if not all Core, Bonus and Manufacturer Library objects will already have those properly set.  

You should however check the User Library Objects.  Rene - take note 

Offset should be 0

Bounding Box y should also be 0

However, I find that placing a Dishwasher or Trash Compactor or a Wine Refrigerator on a wall at 45 degrees is pretty much impossible.  I will investigate further and report my findings to Chief.  I suspect it's a problem with any angle other than 0 and 90.

1 hour ago, Steve_Nyhof said:

All fixed up and back in the library. Now I hope they don't change something that messes it up 

BTW,  You really should modify those Cabinet grouping (Architectural Blocks) so that the Dishwashers are not inserted into a cabinet.  X17 treats DWs as being installed between cabinets vs in a cabinet - just like they ar installed/built in a kitchen.

45 minutes ago, Arnold1955 said:

By the way, I started with version (4)

Version 4 or Version X4 ?

Those are 2 very different things.  I Started with version 9, 9.5, 10, X1......

2 hours ago, Steve_Nyhof said:

Not working for me

Steve, You don't even need to regen the 2D.  All you need to do is edit the y offset of the bounding box to 0.

The other option is to just delete the cabinet and place the dishwasher from the library.  X17 symbols work correctly when placed that way.  You will have a countertop above the dishwasher - or you can create a custom countertop over all the cabinets and the dishwasher.

FWIW, in X17 a Dishwasher doesn't insert into a cabinet.  It is placed instead of a cabinet and the countertop generates on top of it..That way the Dishwasher is placed correctly in the plan view.

But any existing plans brought into X17 at this time will need to be fixed.

I can confirm this, not only for dishwashers but also for wall ovens in cabinets.

I had to open the object and set the bounding box y-offset to 0.

I've submitted a bug report.

Does anyone have a good set of stair connection details showing top and bottom of various conditions?

Apparently it's programmed to be offset to one side, maybe even a little more.

You shoudlprobably report this to Chief as a "Bug".

Try rebuilding the wall framing

AFAIK, that's just no longer available.  Maybe it will be for the final release but I suspect they eliminated it for the Project Manager.

Most drives today are fast enough that a ram drive wouldn't make much difference for undo speed.