Joe_Carrick

Have you considered using open web floor joists so the utilities could be run thru?  That might help.save 20 cm.  It might also be possible to change the direction of floor framing in some areas to accommodate duct running between the joists.

In most jurisdictions the building height is calculated to the average roof height, not the ridge.  Double check the local codes.

I also note that 270 cm is approximately 9 ft.  Do you really need that much ceiling ht for the entire floor area?  Ducts can be run in just central room ceiling as well as in the attic, depending on the design.

If you want assistance with creating a log home in Chief send me your plan file and I will give you a quote to make the necessary changes to your model.

19 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

The depth cue was never built properly, its just a linear approach, it doesnt properly map depths like a true depth cue would

That's not the OP's problem.  He wanted to block areas of the elevation to indicate existing vs new.  My post above provides that funcionality.

Have you tried a semi-transparent mask?

• Essentially a Polyline with a solid white fill (about 35% transparency) in front of that portion of the elevation

BTW, it's best to use the Q&A Forum for questions.  Tips & Techniques are where you post how you do something that other users can benefit by.

29 minutes ago, JonathanK said:

And...maybe thinking on this a little further...if right click allows customization, how does that work for walls and other items?

The customization of newel spacing is only for railing walls.  Basically it's just like continuous drawing of walls except that it thinks the next point is a newel. vs a corner.

I think that's Intended behavior.  The right click allows customization.

There are also log smybols in the library

• Core>Exteriors>Logs

Basically I just prefer to do log homes the same way they are built.  That is the only - or at least the easiest - way to get a complete quantity take-off.

If you use a wall type of:

• 1" air gap
• 7" grout
• 1" air gap

Jambs and Casings will fit to the wall and the 9" logs can be stacked centered on the wall.  Because the logs will shrink over time, the gap at the top of the openings should be at least 2".  Openings should have 2x trimmers, sills and headers for attachment of the jambs, etc.  Just remember that Log construction requires certain special details.  It won't mak any difference in Chief but when actually built it will prevent problems as the structure shrinks vertically.  Keep that in mind also for ceiling framing so pipes and ducts don't get crushed where they pass over interior walls, etc.

I just use a single grout layer (7" thick) - not framing - wall type and then stack logs as follows.

• (9" diameter cylinders -symbols)
• half logs (top and bottom)
• generally stack the logs at 1" less than the diameter.

This allows me to insert doors and windows in the wall - but the logs have to be adjusted lengthwise.

It's best to place the doors and windows before stacking logs.

HI Lance,

I think you'll need to do that as a molding polyline.  Girts won't go below the bottom plate because they are a part of the wall.  You can put the molding polyline on the framing layer for display purposes.

4 hours ago, 5FT-20Designs said:

Drawing was tough 20 years ago. 

You should have seen what we had to do 50 years ago.  

Dropbox is the much better choice.

Plans and Database Libraries.

It is the wrong place.  Post in Q&A would be correct.

Tips & Techniques is for sharing your Tips, not asking questions.  That said, the best cloud storage for Chief is Dropbox. Set up in:

• Preferences
• General
• Folders
• All Program Paths

I'm a bit confused by this thread. 

• In X17 if I delete a Door, Window, Cabinet, etc
  • the Schedules simply reduce in sizes ( one less row )
  • the Labels don't change
• In X13 - which the OP is using - it may be different. 

My suggestion would be to upgrade to X17.

Here's my Scope of Work

It's a Rich Text Box with 3 Schedules (one for each Floor).  This is on my Title Sheet.  It should give you an idea of what is needed.  The Total Living Area is a manual sum of the individual Schedules Living Area columns, but could be calculated in a custom macro.

FWIW, while editing a thread you can in fact change the title.

I'm available.

• joe.carrick@dslextreme.com
• 760-604-0645

4 hours ago, PitMan71 said:

It's irritating to me to have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. in this case people will avoid using an entire column because it can't be relied on to provide the information needed.

The problem's that there's no column for individual walls of a room.  If there was at least 4:

• North or 1
• East or 2
• South or 3
• West or 4

It would be possible to have a fully functional Finish Schedule.

You can have custom fields for those and manually assign the values for each room.  It's a little more work but the Schedule would be more interesting.

This can happen when there are multiple wall types surrounding the room, including pony walls.

In your case, it's the wall with the lable "STUCCO THIS SIDE".  Check that wall definition - maybe reverse the wall layers.

Personally I don't use that column simply because of this.  Instead I use "Wall Schedules" which can have macros to display all the wall layers.

Check the Layout Box's Layer Set.  The wall labels may not be displayed.

3 hours ago, Renerabbitt said:

its not set to anything because you didnt provide your global number formatter 

Correct.

Here's my set_Globals macro.  It can be placed just about anyplace that will be executed early.

set_globals.json

Try this macro

• room_ceiling_ht_ft_in.json
• You might want to adjust the rounding within the macro.  It's currently set to 1/16"

I can't reproduce it.

It might be a problem with the defaults or preference settings.  

5 hours ago, Gawdzira said:

What Perry said and also, don't be surprised if you are going to be hiring a civil engineer to design the grading and storm water management. I am not sure about Irvine but for most of the other areas where I am working in California, this is a must.

Yes, Alan is correct.

Interestingly I just pulled out a permit set for a log home in Big Bear California which was done on (10 ) 12"x18" sheets in 2024.  Today it couldn't be done in less than (25) 24"x36" sheets.

Just 3 years ago I could design and get approval of a Septic System.  Today a licensed PE is required.  Some cities are requiring a Civil Engineer for a grading permit for over 50 yds cut and fill.

California is not a dream !!!

A corner cabinet typically is made with 2 doors attaced to each other opening in one direction. with a lazy susan inside.

Having the doors that way makes it easier to access the contents.