Alaskan_Son

If you make a change using "make copy" , then wouldn't you have to send it to the layout again to update it. I have never used that setting b/c it makes a lot of layout sets and its confusing about which one it is using. Not using it then you know which layerset is being used, the only one.

It actually works beautifully  (except maybe the little problem I'm having?).  Only problem is that you have to be careful to always access the layerset through the layout or you"ll get confused.  You could also just rename the layerset when you send it to layout to help with that confusion, but it really hasn't been a problem for me.

I have had luck with layout views updating by selecting the layout view, clicking the layer options button in the toolbar at the bottom of the page (the square tool with the "O"), and clicking the OK button.  It seems to refresh the view.  This does not work with elevation views.

Okay, so this seems to do the trick, except its the not the square tool with the "O", its the square tool with the checkmark.

I'll try that out Mike.

Perry,

I realize elevations don't update, my problem is with the plan views not updating, and it only seems to be a problem with hiding layers.  Its not consistanat either.  I just opened the plan back up and its working fine again.  Its been an ongoing issue though since at least X4.  And I love "make copy of active layer set".  It makes modifying layers for every page super easy.  I've never understood why so many people don't like that option.

I have not noticed this,  but I do not change THE LAYER SET,  not sure if that is what you are saying.  Do not know what you are doing to cause the problem.  

Try this...Open a layout view, hide one of your layers and then go back to the layout.  See if that change was made on your layout page.  It never is for me, and never has been.

Does anything happen if you zoom/unzoom your view?

No,  makes no diference.

This has been a long time problem for me and I've never taken the time to figure it out...

Is there a way to easily refresh layout pages. Specifically plan views when layer changes have been made. It seems whenever I change or hide an objects layer that those changes will not display on the layout till I close it and reopen it. It has always been this way for me.

Any help would be appreciated.

Same is true for the artistic renderings. All CPU and no video card.

I have something to add...

I think its possible a lot of people may not want to post a plan for fear of people seeing their sloppy model with all its mistakes and in its raw hideous state of being, and don't want people to think less of them.

Don't worry about that guys, we all had to start at zero, I for one still do a lot of sloppy modelling at times, and I know a lot of the veterans still jerry rig a ton of things and just mask it all by hiding layers, covering it with CAD boxes, or using any number of other tricks to make the model do what they want it to.  

Point is, its okay...just post a plan, don't worry about what people will think, most people here are pretty cool and will just help you solve your problem.  Worst case, someone sees something stupid we're doing, points it out, and we pick up an extra tidbit free of charge.

And if you don't know how to post a plan...

-Save the plan

-Close the plan

-Right click on the plan file

-Send to > Compressed (zipped) folder  OR use another method of zipping the plan file

-Attach the zipped folder to your post using "More Reply Options"

-Under "Attach Files" select "Browse"

-Find and select your ZIPPED folder

-Select "Attach This File"

-Done

Many thanks for all contributions. Special thanks to Curt Johnson, whose clear directions were easily followed and the results were perfect.  

In the future, just bear in mind it took a lot of guesses to give you an answer that may have only taken one had your posted a plan.  Not trying to be rude, its just a fact. 

Andrew, I think most (but not all) of us use Nvidea gaming cards as they seem to be the most stable with Chief.  I have had zero problems with either of the cards in my signature line, and honestly don't notice much of a difference between the 2. 

You should probably attach a plan. You will almost always get a much quicker more accurate response that way.

Wow. Really must be a "clone".

DraftSite saves as a DWG.

 

Andy.

Does it AUTOMATICALLY save as a DWG though?

Thanks Joey, that information is super helpful.

I could be wrong, but I think DWG is a proprietary file extension. I don't think you'll find any non-AutoDesk products that will automatically save as DWG.

I believe DraftSight DOES offer a purge tool though and for what it's worth, it was actually AutoCAD users who

recommended DraftSight to me a while back as a nearly identical AutoCad clone.

Check out DraftSight. Haven't used it myself, but heard and read only good things. It sounds like a company who just has it in for AutoDesk so they offer basically the same product for free.

I think the only way is to have them export the entire model as a "family" (Chief's version of a "symbol") and then import that into Chief.  It wouldn't be all that useful though.  It would be much like a giant symbol in Chief, you could explore it, but it wouldn't be very intuitive to work with.

It would also have to be exported from Revit in a 3D file type that Chief can import.  Otherwise, it would have to be run through a file convertor or possibly through Sketchup.

Thanks for the input guys.  I think I got it now.  Am I correct that I only really need to backup entire plan if one computer doesn't have some of the materials/textures??  Other than that, simply saving and transferring the plan file should suffice??

I haven't checked my laptop, but I just tested my PC and it only takes 7 seconds to launch help.

You're right and it's just ridiculous but I'M REALLY GETTING DESPERATE!!  X6 crashes on me regularly.  it's draggy slow and if I don't run as admin it takes up to a full minute to open help.  I wouldn't really care about the help thing as i can just open it once, but the crashing and the lag during use is driving me insane and affecting my productivity and quality of use.  If I could go back to X5 on my current projects I would.

 

X6 has some nice new features but if i can't use if effectively what's the point??  Is this is??  Do we just deal with it until hopefully X7 works right or is there new updates scheduled??  anyone heard anything??

 

It's kinda getting silly that we're all looking at our hardware now trying to figure out if it's something with our systems.  let's face it, everybody's computer didn't somehow all go awry spontaneously all at the same time...

 

Really Blows...  I get that it's a challenge to make software and it's a great program when it works.  The previous versions have been rock solid stable has been my experience so i don't want to be all down on Chief.  I believe in the product and tech has always been very attentive but something is up with X6.

I don't think most of us are having the issues you are.  I'm running X6 just fine on my PC and laptop, and most others I know are having no problems either. 

They actually all seem to work for me.  Some of them...I think just the undermount styles... don't show too well unless I generate a 2D block of the symbol.  Can you attach the plan and I'll see if it works for me?

I see what the difference was...The first time I turned on the Cabinet, Countertop layer also.  The second time I turned on only the Cabinet, Base layer. 

No, I was wrong.  Turning on CAD, Default doesn't work.  It works for me if I turn on the Cabinet, Base layer though. First time I tried, the sink was barely visible.  2nd time it worked just fine though.  Not sure what the difference was.

Not sure how much this will help, but I believe the sink is on the CAD, Default layer (unless you changed it), so that layer must be turned on in the reference display set.

Yup Michael - 3.4GHz no turbo boost.

Wow, 8 cores too.  I wonder if perhaps you don't have some extraneous programs running all the time or if something is using up a bunch of your memory.  Do you run any CPU, RAM, or processor speed meters to see what your computer is doing at any given moment??