Alaskan_Son

Steve,

I give you mad props for attaching the plan...

You have to CLOSE THE PLAN before you zip it though or it won't work.  Your file has no information in it.

The really big one will be when Yosemite blows up, that could be the end of everything.

Yosemite? Or did you mean Yellowstone?

Thanks Scott, I think I may have been a little too subtle. Anything you can do to help shed light on the issue is greatly appreciated (at least by me).

Michael,

 

It's probably because your shadows are so long for so much of the year that you don't realize that they should be any different than the surrounding areas. 

I think perhaps you might be right.  It was a nice sunny summer, but its been pretty constantly below freezing for the last week or so and we're losing around 5 min. 40 seconds of daylight everyday right now.

I didn't even know Chief had the ability to display shadows in plan view.  How have I missed that for so long?

I guess I figured it was a "generic" kind of question --not necessarily related to my particular plan. (Which it was, but perhaps you all didn't realize it as  you probably assumed I couldn't be that dumb to not know what the finish ceiling height was measuring to, etc...  .) I went back to look at the floor default dbx and looked more closely and I can see that (E) rough ceiling and (F) finish ceiling ARE shown as dimensioned to different floors areas (sub-floor and finish floor respectively), though you have to look closely. I guess I was thinking of them as relative elevations above the subfloor for that level (which would be 0") rather than dimensions off of different parts of the floor.  (I have to explain the reason for my  apparently "stupid" question so you don't all think I am nuts!)   

 

Michael--I did just now go under the "how to post on this forum..." sticky and found your helpful post about how to zip and post  plan files onto this forum. Now that I know how, and know that you all actually want to see the plans, I will try to do so, unless it is an obvious generic type question.  And believe me, I am sure I will have lots more questions! I DO try and figure out the answer myself first--I promise--as I don't want to waste anyone's time!

 

Thanks so much to all of you who take the time to try and help us newbies.

Phyllis

You know what...thank YOU for being a good sport and for being so receptive. 

Michael,  is it necessary to post the plan if shadows that are shown on my plan view are quite different to those that are rendered.

 

Do you really need to see the plans to give me an answer?  

Is this a trick question?  Are you just trying to start trouble? : )

I suppose a plan may or may not help in this situation, however it most certainly could not hurt.  I'm actually not sure where I would start to troubleshoot that one.  In that instance some screenshots might be a little more helpful. 

There's really not much more to say...

post the plan

Its become somewhat of a pet peeve to me over the years.  9 out of 10 times we ask someone to post the plan, they ignore it.  For those of you that do, if you're not sure how to post the plan, just ask.  Its easy...

-Save the plan

-Close the plan

-Zip the plan (right click>send to compressed folder)

-Attach the plan to your post using "more reply options">Browse>Attach This File

If the plan file is too big, save as a different name and then delete whatever isn't necessary from the plan and try the above steps one more time...OR use Dropbox

When you post the plan, you will almost always get an accurate answer in very short order and save a lot of people a lot of guesses.  Plus, when you ignore requests to post the plan its almost a little insulting.  You're asking us to donate our time to help you, but you're not willing to play your part (at least that's how it can seem at times).  After doing this for long enough, I think there are some who will simply stop helping.

Please, if someone asks for it, post the plan, and if you know it will help, post it before being asked.  Thanks.

You're welcome:)

I'm a side note, not sure I mentioned it before, but you will almost always get a near immediate and accurate answer if you learn to post the plan.

You know...I must note that someone would have likely figured that out for you days ago had you POSTED THE PLAN. and if you don't know how, just ask.

5/8" drywall + 7/8" flooring = 1-1/2". Check the room structure dbx more carefully or...

POST THE PLAN

No problem. Glad you figured it out

Or, perhaps...3D>Camera View Options>Toggle Textures

Perhaps you accidentally toggled your colors off.  See attached...

Does that rule also apply to RayTrace?

No

Maximum of 8 lights in STD render for most video cards.  Chief will turn off lights based on proximity to camera.

Yup. Exactly where I was headed.

Are you talking about Standard 3-D previews or ray traces? Two entirely different animals.

Now that I think about it a little more I think one option adds the door PANEL to the library and the other adds the entire doorway (panel, casing, lintel, sill, hardware, etc.)

I actually don't remember. I'm not in front of my computer right now but if I remember correctly it gives you the option of door or doorway. Whatever it was, one worked for what I was doing the other didn't.

I have used that in the past for custom doors.

You know...I just remembered something I previously thought of doing that hasn't come up again since I thought of it...

Using the subtraction tool for heavy timber framing (or actually any kind of complex joinery.. You could essentially make all your cuts in 3D, and then separate the pieces and make a sort of visual 3D cut list.

That's all. Just thought I'd throw that into the mix while I was thinking about it.

Michael:

 

He has light sources in the cabinets as well .... above the tube lights under the cabinets.  If you select the 3 light sources in plan and check their location for display in camera views, you can see where they are sitting in elevation with a full camera view of the wall cabinets.

Good catch Curt.  I'm sure that wasn't helping then.  I just automatically deleted those lights for my quick test as they didn't seem necessary so you might be right.

I suspect the 3 added light sources inside of the wall cabinets may be what was causing the wall cabinet light leaks. Putting a roof on your plan "might" (??) help as well.

I thought that at first as well, I even put it in my post but deleted it when I realized that it looked like those light were actually under the cabinets (from renderings in previous posts), and some of the light leaks were on the walls and not even near the cabinets.

I didn't mess around with it too much, and there's a lot that could be done to make it look nicer, but here's a 4 pass, just under 5 minute ray trace using your settings and plan with the following changes...

-I deleted most things from the plan that weren't in view (if you do this, save the temporary plan with a different name before you start deleting stuff)

-Under the lighting tab in the ray trace dbx I pretty much always uncheck "Use Camera View Settings"

-I moved the added lights to behind the camera and deleted or turned off all ther rest (including the sun).  Please note, turning the sun off isn't always necessary (and proabably wasn't in this case), it just helps sometimes (at least in past versions to get rid of some of those "light leaks".

-Probably most notably, I built a quick roof on the plan. 

Not sure if the probelm was the missing roof or something else...at any rate, its nothing fancy, but hope that helps. 

You made no mention of having tried turning off the sun.  Have you tried that yet?